Thread: Mono-Team or Elemental Advantage?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Why is everyone so focused on clearing all the content in the first month? ._. What if it takes you 2-3 months to clear all the content and have 6 decent teams???? I read all the time "you need this and that if you wanna do something in this game". Seriously, I started to play with not a single SSR KH in the account and after a month and a half I cleared all the events without any problem and the SSR's started to come. And to set it clear, I do more in events that most of my union mates with a rerolled account with 2-3 SSR himes. People is too focused on auto everything ._.

Because people read strategy guides hoping to follow an optimal strategy, and that's usually my intended audience. Obviously players are free to take the path that suits them, or disagree with the strategies I lay out.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Why is everyone so focused on clearing all the content in the first month? ._. What if it takes you 2-3 months to clear all the content and have 6 decent teams???? I read all the time "you need this and that if you wanna do something in this game". Seriously, I started to play with not a single SSR KH in the account and after a month and a half I cleared all the events without any problem and the SSR's started to come. And to set it clear, I do more in events that most of my union mates with a rerolled account with 2-3 SSR himes. People is too focused on auto everything ._.

I attribute it to the human tendency to want to excel in something they find competitive value in, and I assume (with probably a huge margin of error) that many players of MMORPGs(?) like this game probably would at least want to get good at the game, one way or another, and such people would probably like to do so with low effort high reward.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I've seen very dedicated new users go this route and have 6 mediocre teams that can't clear content even after months of play. That's why I don't typically recommend this strategy.

Sorry if I sound rude or arrogant but I would not call those very dedicated users if after months of playing, they still struggle from clearing content. Something like advent event ragnaroks or accessory quest rank 4 I would understand but almost everything else, 'months' should be more than enough.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Why is everyone so focused on clearing all the content in the first month? ._. What if it takes you 2-3 months to clear all the content and have 6 decent teams???? I read all the time "you need this and that if you wanna do something in this game". Seriously, I started to play with not a single SSR KH in the account and after a month and a half I cleared all the events without any problem and the SSR's started to come. And to set it clear, I do more in events that most of my union mates with a rerolled account with 2-3 SSR himes. People is too focused on auto everything ._.

It's not so much the first month but as soon as possible, whether it takes you a single month or more depends on how much time you're willing to dedicate to the game. Kamihime isn't exactly newb friendly game, you really want to get to the point where you can at least complete the weapon and eidolon of an event regularly before you start 'taking it easy'.

Being able to auto is godsend in this game. I couldn't imagine having to run 200+ raids for a raid event manually.

Others have already said things about the rest, but this one:

Originally Posted by Kazuto9x

3. Do I even need -50% debuffs with elemental advantage? Because I don't think I will get for each element a -50% debuff...

Need? No. But you should absolutely aim for it, yes. Thanks to Vine (acquired from Exchange Shop) and Yatagarasu(/Jormungand from Eidolon Orbs later), everyone has access to -50% Def and Atk. You need one (1) Hime with a -20% Ability and you're set. Your Soul can cover the rest. However, this still leaves you lacking in Black Propaganda, so having at least two Hime with debuffs would be highly recommendable.

This does, however, prevent you from some strats such as Shingen builds. And this is where the team building aspect comes in.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Others have already said things about the rest, but this one:Need? No. But you should absolutely aim for it, yes. Thanks to Vine (acquired from Exchange Shop) and Yatagarasu(/Jormungand from Eidolon Orbs later), everyone has access to -50% Def and Atk. You need one (1) Hime with a -20% Ability and you're set. Your Soul can cover the rest. However, this still leaves you lacking in Black Propaganda, so having at least two Hime with debuffs would be highly recommendable.

This does, however, prevent you from some strats such as Shingen builds. And this is where the team building aspect comes in.

Mhm. Wouldn't it be better to get (Eclipse Princess) Amaterasu? Her element is dark and she would fit in every team and you don't need Black Propaganda and Sniper Shot anymore. The only disadvantage would be that you lack some damage and you can't get her with a miracle ticket.
But people who have (Eclipse Princess) Amaterasu could make a good Team around SR for each element or not?

Originally Posted by Sora

Mhm. Wouldn't it be better to get (Eclipse Princess) Amaterasu? Her element is dark and she would fit in every team and you don't need Black Propaganda and Sniper Shot. The only disadvantage would be that you lack some damage.

It would be better, but when we talk about strategies we tend to try not to include limited edition SSRs, seeing as they're well... limited edition, it's not a strategy that can apply universally since the hime isn't technically available forever.

Originally Posted by Sora

Mhm. Wouldn't it be better to get (Eclipse Princess) Amaterasu? Her element is dark and she would fit in every team and you don't need Black Propaganda and Sniper Shot anymore. The only disadvantage would be that you lack some damage and you can't get her with a miracle ticket.
But people who have (Eclipse Princess) Amaterasu could make a good Team around SR for each element or not?

Of course, Dark Amaterasu has two of the core debuffs which makes her absolutely amazing. She is, however, Limited like pointed out by Cobblemaniac. Thus, your viable options is to reroll into her (while she is available) or be willing to spend like 10k dollars (again, only while she is available). Because Limited means not available in Miracle Tickets.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Of course, Dark Amaterasu has two of the core debuffs which makes her absolutely amazing. She is, however, Limited like pointed out by Cobblemaniac. Thus, your viable options is to reroll into her (while she is available) or be willing to spend like 10k dollars (again, only while she is available). Because Limited means not available in Miracle Tickets.

I don't want to boast but since I have her and I am aiming for a Dark Team at the moment. I am really happy that I can also build a good team for each element around her. But it will take time until I get to this point and I will need more SSR/SR Himes for every element. However I think that SR Himes are enough for the other elements or I have luck and get some SSR for every element. But my main priority are dark SSR Himes.
Furthermore I tought that I don't really need Mordred and D'Artagnan when I can just use Dark Amaterasu.

Can someone explain this "grid" please? Sometimes I read that some people have a 120% Water grid or 150% dark grid?
How do you calculate this %?

Grid refers to the 10 equipped weapons for a given team.
% usually refers to assault/character atk.
Assault (small) has a base amount of 0%, (medium) gives 3%, and (large) gives 6%. Pride itself has a base amount of 0%. SR weapons with just assault are medium. SSR weapons with just assault are large. SSR weapons with two skills will have one being medium and the other being small.
Each skill lvl on a weapon with Assault or Pride adds 0.5% (regardless of small/medium/large).

Originally Posted by Sora

Furthermore I tought that I don't really need Mordred and D'Artagnan when I can just use Dark Amaterasu.

Correct. You are in a rather unique spot with that, as Dark Amaterasu is not a common thing to have.
I'd still highly recommend grabbing Mordred at least once you've taken care of the rest of the useful Souls (Gawain, Cass, Joan, maybe Andromeda). Because this way, you can do content with other element teams while leaving out Dark Amaterasu. That might be a thing you'll need to do one day... ... though probably not since Dark works against all elements.

Originally Posted by Sora

Can someone explain this "grid" please? Sometimes I read that some people have a 120% Water grid or 150% dark grid?
How do you calculate this %?

Sadly, there's no easy way to calculate this.
R weapons are 0% base. SR weapons are 3%. SSR weapons are 6%. Dual skill weapons, if they're Hime release weapons, usually have one SSR skill and one R skill, and event dual-skill weapons are SR and R.
Each skill LEVEL is 0.5%, and yes, that means that dual-skills double-dip into this.

So for example 10 equipped SR weapons with each slvl20 is (10*3%) + (10*20*0.5%) = 30% + 100% = 130% grid.

I've made a spreadsheet for myself to help keep track of what weapons I have for each element and their skill levels, and it calculates the exact percentages for me.