Thread: [Event 41] Raid Event vs Barong

Originally Posted by QXZ

raids do not repeat. whereas Advent does and Gacha is always available / repeatable.

if raid wpns get FLB, and assuming they are good FLB's, then new players will feel compelled to buy them from Shop. which is inferior compared to playing Advent / Union Event or new Raids.

long story short: FLB raid wpns = less profit

Whether raids repeat or not doesn't matter, raids are easy enough for new players to get the weapon simply by joining in and tagging, especially with the reduce soul reward requirements. On the other hand, several advent events haven't even gotten reprints in DMM, rather they've gone back to repeat old ones again, meaning new players who didn't even finish those new advents are stuck waiting who knows how long.

If a raid weapon gets a final break and assuming it is a good final break like you said, then why shouldn't new players buy them from the shop? If raid weapons in the shop had final breaks, of course you'd go for it, even high rank players that missed them would if they can buy them with excess currency gotten in-game.

There is no 'less profit' from raid weapons not having final breaks and that wasn't even the point in the first place. It's that you're saying raid weapons having a final break limit would be unfair for new players when it would be the opposite, it would being easier for them to get stronger with because they're easier to complete.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

There is no 'less profit' from raid weapons not having final breaks and that wasn't even the point in the first place. It's that you're saying raid weapons having a final break limit would be unfair for new players when it would be the opposite, it would being easier for them to get stronger with because they're easier to complete.

because raids do not repeat...... that is the answer. you have to think deeply about the money and how to make money. you have to understand what is power creep and why it is important to this game, and why raid FLB is bad for power creep.

it simplest terms: think about 2 scenarios, one with FLB raid and one without and think 2 steps further about the possible outcomes and outcomes of the outcomes and the outcomes of the out comes of the outcomes. and you will see raid FLB is inferior revenue.

Originally Posted by QXZ

because raids do not repeat...... that is the answer. you have to think deeply about the money and how to make money. you have to understand what is power creep and why it is important to this game, and why raid FLB is bad for power creep.

it simplest terms: think about 2 scenarios, one with FLB raid and one without and think 2 steps further about the possible outcomes and outcomes of the outcomes and the outcomes of the out comes of the outcomes. and you will see raid FLB is inferior revenue.

Neither raids repeating nor the game getting revenue has to do with your implications about how it would be unfair to new players if they did exist. Not sure if you're intentionally trying to strawman or something but I never quoted you to start a discussion about DMM making money, I am asking why you are considering it unfair for new players if final breaks for raid weapons did exist.

anyone else lagging like a mofo? ive lost mvp spot a couple times cause im stuck loading when attacking

Originally Posted by russ

anyone else lagging like a mofo? ive lost mvp spot a couple times cause im stuck loading when attacking

i think that's "normal" on 20/20 ragnarok rooms...

edit: actually nvm, i lag hard too even on rooms with only 8-11 people. server lag maybe?

haven't touched the game yet (and still can't due to work in almost an hour), but from what i'm seeing, siegfried isn't worth the raging decrease buff (although i have seen a slight difference using it before so it can save you 1 turn to try and reduce raging and nothing more if you use abilities with it).

so yeah, she's only good for the stun nuke i guess... might have to run gilgamesh or arthur since I still don't have shingen or herc yet (so very close to herc being 90 points away).

and looking at a few other things, i could basically run nonsensei's team... only difference is that instead of dark ama (i don't have her), I can use nepthys or pharol, maybe even beelzebub

Definitely server lag.

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

i think that's "normal" on 20/20 ragnarok rooms...

edit: actually nvm, i lag hard too even on rooms with only 8-11 people. server lag maybe?

yeah seems like it always happens at the start of new events for me, they cant handle the load seems like

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...d9c60508e8.png

Did try it out, worked well.