Thread: Updated Kamihime Project Rerolling Guide for New and Intermediate Players

Originally Posted by Slashley

And current P2W Eidolons are at least 55% more Elemental attack than available otherwise. And if I understood right, you're basically comparing 0-star 100% Eidolons to MLB 120% Eidolons.

The 120% Eidolons will be buffed a bit, but you're really underselling just how powerful those are. Either will grant you the greatest thing that a new player can want - actually competent Friends.
In addition, the couple of months that a player would miss before rerolling into Hanuman would a huge loss as well.

tl;dr; The current P2W Eidolons are plenty good enough.

I can vouch for that since I rolled Hraes I got a friend request from you and I only started playing a week ago I got pretty lucky on my reroll landing Hraes and Cu Chulainn on the first 3000 jewel roll. Only took less than 100 tries I think less than 5 hours for sure. And I was rerolling on my phone too although the IP restriction is easier to bypass as just turning airplane mode on and off did the trick.
So I bought a Miracle ticket and picked Unleashed Cybele. Any suggestions on what to do next? Seems like I'm starting to hit a wall.

Originally Posted by Gacha

I can vouch for that since I rolled Hraes I got a friend request from you and I only started playing a week ago I got pretty lucky on my reroll landing Hraes and Cu Chulainn on the first 3000 jewel roll. Only took less than 100 tries I think less than 5 hours for sure. And I was rerolling on my phone too although the IP restriction is easier to bypass as just turning airplane mode on and off did the trick.
So I bought a Miracle ticket and picked Unleashed Cybele. Any suggestions on what to do next? Seems like I'm starting to hit a wall.

Titania for speed up your team and then Aether for dmg, You just start for a week so your grid probably shit, go to the wiki search for the time gem quest appear and farm the shit out of of it, and then spam Gem Gacha for leveling folders

Originally Posted by Pigeon

For a player re-rolling for an account based on this guide to build a team around complete with multiple Miracle Ticket picks I think it's reasonable to assume that they don't intend to dump this game 11 months from now.

I mean, how long have you been playing?

It's a long term investment and Hanuman a month from now is a significantly better one than any that can be re-rolled for now.

Hanuman will be buffed in a year from now. So hanuman still 120% eidolon but if you dont have any sub wind eidolon its equal to only 100% same as hraes.

Originally Posted by Gacha

I can vouch for that since I rolled Hraes I got a friend request from you and I only started playing a week ago

Ha ha, what can I say. I'm a simple man, when I see a Host, MVP or vice-MVP with 100% Eidolon, I send a friend request through the Battle History menu.

As you get stronger and you start to get proper MLB SSR Eidolons for all elements, you can drop gold diggers like me who don't provide you with a 100% Eidolon back. In particular you're looking for people with Hraes, since double Hraes is not only amazing damage, but also a Friend Hraes giving you that sweet Def debuff at the start of the fight is just ridiculously good.

Originally Posted by Gacha

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So I bought a Miracle ticket and picked Unleashed Cybele. Any suggestions on what to do next? Seems like I'm starting to hit a wall.

As Unregistered said, you need to know the Gem Quest timer and farm that a bit, then spend on Gem Gacha for R fodder so that you can level up your Grid skill levels.

Your best source of Assault Wind weapons of SR or SSR quality is Wind Disaster - all difficulties. The current Ragnarok - soon to be called Ultimate - drops only the Assault weapon (the Bow), but you'll need help to clear that one. But you can probably solo Standard and Expert. Those also drop the Axe and the... what was it again... the Lance, was it? Those are Defender, don't bother with those IMO. Get 7-9 Bows and then start Limit Breaking them as you get more, and level up their skill levels.

Otherwise it'll be time to just "wait" for events. Dark Union Event is coming right up, which are amazing for people with strong-ish Unions and complete ass for people who are not in Unions. Another reason to get into a Union is because Shingen, the best Wind Soul, is gated behind ~6 months of Union Events. You NEED that Union, so you should try to find yourself a decent Union somehow. There's a thread for that, and also Discord, I guess?

Once you have five MLB SSR Eidolons in your Eidolon Grid, then you can get really started on the game as they provide you with a huge chunk of your HP. That's ~2 months of play. Kamihime will offer you endless amounts of things to grind, but it will slightly gate your progression behind the ~3 events per month that it provides.

And mind you, the ones listed so far are only your first goals - as you get stronger you'll start having access to stuff like Accessory Quests, Relic weapons, Guild Order and the sort. But before you can tackle those, you need to get the minimum basics done: 9 skill level 20 Assault weapons and 5 MLB SSR Eidolons. Well, at least the highest difficulties that is, you can dabble in them even before that.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Hanuman will be buffed in a year from now. So hanuman still 120% eidolon but if you dont have any sub wind eidolon its equal to only 100% same as hraes.

What's more important to you, this calendar year or the rest of time after this calendar year?

In either timeframe, Hanuman will be better than Hraesvelgr. In the much longer timeframe, Hanuman will be much better. The same applies to the other 2019 Gacha Eidolons as they come out, relative to their earlier counterparts.

You can live in the far future as much as you want, but you're still selling a 100% Eidolon against a 100% Eidolon. Yes, Hanuman is slightly better... if you can fulfill the requirement of Wind Eidolon Grid without sacrificing base Atk. Hint, you can't.

In a year, Hanuman is somewhat better. 120% Hanuman against 100% Hraes is certainly a damage increase, but again, going to 140% will require a Wind Eidolon Grid. Even if you do go 140% Hanuman, hell, even if you go DOUBLE 140% Hanuman, the damage increase when compared to double 100% Hraes is barely enough to cover the 16% extra damage you get from Hraes being able to get your Def debuffs from 40% to 50%. Of course, this doesn't apply to debuff immune content.

Again, you're seriously overselling Hanuman.

Originally Posted by Pigeon

What's more important to you, this calendar year or the rest of time after this calendar year?

In either timeframe, Hanuman will be better than Hraesvelgr. In the much longer timeframe, Hanuman will be much better. The same applies to the other 2019 Gacha Eidolons as they come out, relative to their earlier counterparts.

Indeed but rerolling isn't easy too by the time hanuman comes he has missed wind union event also it takes maybe a month from now so don't really sure he want to wait that long. As rare as hanuman, flb weapon also very rare and furthermore wind weapon also give best flb because give you 2 exceed weapons on top of assault large or pride. To get flb is very rare too and he will get several sr assault to help him boost his grid much faster too. He can wait but but is it really worth to wait and reroll again for spesific eidolon. He mostly dont get the 100% eidolon when reroll there is no guarantee even with rate up. In one year of time nothing can be predicted is it close down or have no motivation anymore to play. If he wait hanuman he will lose 2 flb exceed weapons and must do crazy reroll again and collect more weapons. If he use current hraes he can play now, get 2 flb weapons and get many sr to fill its grid faster and hraes active also strong. Its not bad trade off.

Originally Posted by Pigeon

In either timeframe, Hanuman will be better than Hraesvelgr. In the much longer timeframe, Hanuman will be much better. The same applies to the other 2019 Gacha Eidolons as they come out, relative to their earlier counterparts.

But if you reroll for Hanuman, you are 1 additional month behind AND one wind UE event (which means two FLB weapon less). It was already noted when i was writing this reply.

Originally Posted by Slashley

You can live in the far future as much as you want, but you're still selling a 100% Eidolon against a 100% Eidolon. Yes, Hanuman is slightly better... if you can fulfill the requirement of Wind Eidolon Grid without sacrificing base Atk. Hint, you can't.

And how high will this base ATK loss be ? 1k, 2k ? And with double upgraded Hanuman you get 80% (40% with old version) additional ele ATK (doesn't matter whether it's 0 LB or FLB). Eidos' on summon effects are another thing though.

Originally Posted by Slashley

In a year, Hanuman is somewhat better. 120% Hanuman against 100% Hraes is certainly a damage increase, but again, going to 140% will require a Wind Eidolon Grid. Even if you do go 140% Hanuman, hell, even if you go DOUBLE 140% Hanuman, the damage increase when compared to double 100% Hraes is barely enough to cover the 16% extra damage you get from Hraes being able to get your Def debuffs from 40% to 50%. Of course, this doesn't apply to debuff immune content.

Difference with Soul weapon and advantage: 455/375 = ~21% damage gain. Provided you can't hit DEF down cap gain will be negligible. If you can or boss is debuff immune, that's another story.
After buffs those eidolons are on new level of broken.

Originally Posted by Slashley

You can live in the far future as much as you want, but you're still selling a 100% Eidolon against a 100% Eidolon. Yes, Hanuman is slightly better... if you can fulfill the requirement of Wind Eidolon Grid without sacrificing base Atk. Hint, you can't.

In a year, Hanuman is somewhat better. 120% Hanuman against 100% Hraes is certainly a damage increase, but again, going to 140% will require a Wind Eidolon Grid. Even if you do go 140% Hanuman, hell, even if you go DOUBLE 140% Hanuman, the damage increase when compared to double 100% Hraes is barely enough to cover the 16% extra damage you get from Hraes being able to get your Def debuffs from 40% to 50%. Of course, this doesn't apply to debuff immune content.

Again, you're seriously overselling Hanuman.

I disagree about going one element eidolon grid is worse. Going one element grid has benefit using the likes of hanuman, managram, anubis etc. Going one element eidos grid will benefit you with extra 10% eidos stats increase. So 2400 attack and 800hp if same element its automatically will become 2640 and 880hp. That doesn't cover 20% more passive from opponent eidolon. If you have hanuman the extra benefit would be at least 40% more extra elemental buff from eidolon. 40% elemental attack is big and 10% extra stats mostly have covered the status decrease from using weaker status eidolon but many wind eidolon has strong stats too so it isn't a problem.

Going one element grid has benefit using the likes of hanuman, managram, anubis etc even just as friend support'.
Fixed
Each same element eidolon with hime will give you 4% elemental attack if using hanuman and co as support. 4% elemental attack is big we compared strongest event eidos so far against strongest wind eidos so far which is obtainable through shop.
Example tiamat versus icarus. Tiamat attack 2262 vs icarus 2094. But icarus is wind if using wind hime icarus become 2303. So its become 2262 vs 2303 conclusion icarus attack is better than tiamat if using in wind team. We compare tiamat hp vs icarus hp. Tiamat hp 516 vs icarus hp 516. But icarus is wind so its become 568. In this case also icarus stats still better than tiamat the strongest event eidos in terms of status.