Thread: Consolidated Dark Team Topic

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

yeah, she's very good and the only problem with her is that she's limited edition which means not everyone can get her unless they get lucky

i actually haven't thought of a situation like that since I never got dark amat (and i dont know if im ever planning to get her since im not a whale)
you'd probably have to sacrifice one of those other himes you mentioned if you wanna squeeze pluto in I suppose

you could also consider Samael in the future because she offers dark RST debuff 25% and she has a debuff nuke like yamaraja's I think

You mean something like that:
- Dark Ama
- Osiris
- Hades
- Satan/Samael/Thanatos/Amon U (next year)

Crap... that she is limited.
Satan and Samael would probably have a higher priority than Thanatos because they both offer -25% def down but then I can't run Ambush with Satan.
Debuff nuke? Dosen't Hades already offer a debuff nuke?

I could also use Pluto instead of Osiris and Cassiopeia or Andromeda as Soul.
But how effective is Pluto?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You mean something like that:
- Dark Ama
- Osiris
- Hades
- Satan/Samael/Thanatos/Amon U (next year)

Crap... that she is limited.
Satan and Samael would probably have a higher priority than Thanatos because they both offer -25% def down but then I can't run Ambush with Satan.
Debuff nuke? Dosen't Hades already offer a debuff nuke?

I could also use Pluto instead of Osiris and Cassiopeia or Andromeda as Soul.
But how effective is Pluto?

if you can already cover ambush with someone else like Satan/Amon U, then just run sniper shot w/ mordred (assuming you dont have dark amat and you want both sniper shot and black propaganda)

Uh no I don't think hades does that lol. what i meant with debuff nuke is that it deals damage based on the number of afflictions on the enemy (which would go well with mordred I guess but Samael also provides the same DoTs mordred does too i think, she also offers a combo atk down with it)
and if im reading this right, her dark res debuff 25% also comes with VoF

They would provide better heal, but not the +15 burst gauge that Osiris would give (it actually comes in handy in case u want to burst 1 turn early)
Pluto provides a 30% damage cut w/ light res 20% for the team, and also gives an atk buff w/ dark buff for the entire team also

as the first post said, she goes well with Osiris cuz she would increase your burst damage with her buffs
plus u can never go wrong with a damage cut for the entire team

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

if you can already cover ambush with someone else like Satan/Amon U, then just run sniper shot w/ mordred (assuming you dont have dark amat and you want both sniper shot and black propaganda)

Uh no I don't think hades does that lol. what i meant with debuff nuke is that it deals damage based on the number of afflictions on the enemy (which would go well with mordred I guess but Samael also provides the same DoTs mordred does too i think, she also offers a combo atk down with it)
and if im reading this right, her dark res debuff 25% also comes with VoF

They would provide better heal, but not the +15 burst gauge that Osiris would give (it actually comes in handy in case u want to burst 1 turn early)
Pluto provides a 30% damage cut w/ light res 20% for the team, and also gives an atk buff w/ dark buff for the entire team also

as the first post said, she goes well with Osiris cuz she would increase your burst damage with her buffs
plus u can never go wrong with a damage cut for the entire team

Nice discussion here.

I have a similar question regarding my current dark team. I have dark ama and osiris.
In my case I should just get Hades (with the current miracle ticket) + Thanatos, Samael or Amon and use ambush as a ex skill.
However it's indifferent for which one I decide for my 4th SSR Hime (Thanatos, Samael or Amon) because I will need Ambush as a ex skill or not?

Is Pluto a must-have hime for a dark team, if I have dark ama?

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

VoF

What does that mean?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Nice discussion here.

I have a similar question regarding my current dark team. I have dark ama and osiris.
In my case I should just get Hades (with the current miracle ticket) + Thanatos, Samael or Amon and use ambush as a ex skill.
However it's indifferent for which one I decide for my 4th SSR Hime (Thanatos, Samael or Amon) because I will need Ambush as a ex skill or not?

Is Pluto a must-have hime for a dark team, if I have dark ama?

That's actually kinda hard to decide, I guess it would depend on ur playstyle or what build u would like, since u have dark amat, then you could either get thanatos or satan and aim for an offensive burst build (with Shingen as your main soul)
and since dark amat paired with either AW Satan or Amon U would already help u reach 40/45 atk/def debuff, then I don't think you would need ambush anymore. What ex skill you use is gonna be up to you I suppose

I.. honestly don't know if Pluto is a must have for dark teams. if your team is already filled with.. let's say Satan/Amon/Thanatos, Dark amat, Osiris and Hades, then it's kinda hard to think who you would replace just to squeeze pluto in

But for people without dark amat, it would be easy to fit Pluto or Samael in on their dark teams

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What does that mean?

VoF = Vissicitudes of Fortune
Mordred's 2nd skill that helps you land debuffs easier

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You mean something like that:
- Dark Ama
- Osiris
- Hades
- Satan/Samael/Thanatos/Amon U (next year)

Crap... that she is limited.
Satan and Samael would probably have a higher priority than Thanatos because they both offer -25% def down but then I can't run Ambush with Satan.
Debuff nuke? Dosen't Hades already offer a debuff nuke?

I could also use Pluto instead of Osiris and Cassiopeia or Andromeda as Soul.
But how effective is Pluto?

Honestly i run that team with the exception of dark amaterasu and if i was to build a perfect dark team next year i would rather swap osiris cause her heal isnt great and shes only useful for burst.

I would go : Dark Ama, Hades, Satan and Amon.
I say this with the change to Amon in mind as she can pair with Satan by that time.

Considering Dark Ama is not available anymore i aim for this team in 1 year: Hades, Satan, Amon and Pluto.

Originally Posted by artista

Honestly i run that team with the exception of dark amaterasu and if i was to build a perfect dark team next year i would rather swap osiris cause her heal isnt great and shes only useful for burst.

I would go : Dark Ama, Hades, Satan and Amon.
I say this with the change to Amon in mind as she can pair with Satan by that time.

Considering Dark Ama is not available anymore i aim for this team in 1 year: Hades, Satan, Amon and Pluto.

imo if a player is aiming for a burst build w/ shingen, then I think Osiris will help a lot because of her +15 burst gauge for the entire team, and having a heal (even tho its not as great as Sol's heal) isnt too bad of an option

and who knows? Maybe she'll get an awakening in the future (which i want to believe, since I do think she badly needs it as she's the only SSR healer of Dark)

but its up to them if they want a backup heal w/ a chance to burst 1 turn early, or just go full offense with their teams

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

imo if a player is aiming for a burst build w/ shingen, then I think Osiris will help a lot because of her +15 burst gauge for the entire team, and having a heal (even tho its not as great as Sol's heal) isnt too bad of an option

and who knows? Maybe she'll get an awakening in the future (which i want to believe, since I do think she badly needs it as she's the only SSR healer of Dark)

but its up to them if they want a backup heal w/ a chance to burst 1 turn early, or just go full offense with their teams

The problem i see is that Hades Amon and Satan AW will synergize pretty good and be my core team which leaves the 4th slot to either Pluto or Osiris. I have Osiris and i feel the 1,1k heal with 15 burst isnt worth compared to get a dmg cut and burst from Pluto but when i grab Pluto eventually i can compare better. Thanatos is not needed aswell with the changes to Amon.

Originally Posted by artista

The problem i see is that Hades Amon and Satan AW will synergize pretty good and be my core team which leaves the 4th slot to either Pluto or Osiris. I have Osiris and i feel the 1,1k heal with 15 burst isnt worth compared to get a dmg cut and burst from Pluto but when i grab Pluto eventually i can compare better. Thanatos is not needed aswell with the changes to Amon.

I suppose thats true. Its such a long wait for the Amon U buffs though.....
Another possible good alternative in my opinion would be Samael, but she wont come to nutaku until... december or something i think
Well at least Osiris will always be an option to you, in case you need some healing on your dark team. I do think its okay to run both Osiris and Pluto though, and if you don't need the damage cut and have other alternatives like Thanatos/AW Satan/Samael, then they're also great to place in
She is, in my opinion, the most decent healer you can have for dark (this is of course if a player isn't considering to run Sol or Andromeda/Cassiopeia as a healer on their dark team) because her heal doesn't have that long of a cooldown (I consider 6CD short) and it gives 15 burst
in the future there would be some decent SR dark healers like Diana [Archer] (1200 heal w/ party atk buff, 8CD) or Manes (1200 Heal w/ 1k barrier for party, 10CD) for lets say F2P players who can't get her, but these ones wont heal as often as Osiris can because their heal CD is kinda long

But that's just my take on it. Feel free to correct me if I got anything wrong lol (or if I forgot any other good healer in the future for dark)

(and while waiting for Amon U's insane buffs in the future, I still hope to see Osiris getting an awakening while I wait)

Originally Posted by artista

The problem i see is that Hades Amon and Satan AW will synergize pretty good and be my core team which leaves the 4th slot to either Pluto or Osiris. I have Osiris and i feel the 1,1k heal with 15 burst isnt worth compared to get a dmg cut and burst from Pluto but when i grab Pluto eventually i can compare better. Thanatos is not needed aswell with the changes to Amon.

Thanatos actually loses her use even earlier than Amon's changes. Satan's awakening, 4 months after Thanatos' release. You can still hit cap def down with Amon and Satan once she's awakened, which will be a lot earlier than waiting for a year+ for Amon to change. While Satan's def down won't stack with Amon's yet, the additional -10% dark res down from awakening will still factor in, meaning -35% def down with Amon and Awakened Satan. With Sniper Shot (or Dark Ama or Lu Bu), you'll still be hitting that -50% def down.

Feeling Vine is still a good factor in dark teams as well, simply because you can use her with Anubis. Though not sure how much a difference her low stats will impact future content.