Thread: [Event 43] Raid Event vs Tiamat

As long as you keep spamming half-pots for Gem Quests and spend 100k on Gem Gacha every day, level-up fodder should be fairly easy to obtain.

SR weapons are like slvl20 in two days, though leveling up takes longer (three?). I'd imagine that Eidolons would take like a week.

Originally Posted by Slashley

As long as you keep spamming half-pots for Gem Quests and spend 100k on Gem Gacha every day, level-up fodder should be fairly easy to obtain.

SR weapons are like slvl20 in two days, though leveling up takes longer (three?). I'd imagine that Eidolons would take like a week.

Oh yeah, I've been doing that lately (hence why Barong was finished and her gun as well). I probably need to do the gem quests more, but I feel like I have too much right now (although spending will get that down in like a week).

Originally Posted by xxMidnightxx

Cmon bro... Reiki is better lmao a 5 percentage boost to the entire team is huge especially when it’s atk up and not character. The fact that u said they’re pretty much the same plus some blows my mind. A better argument here is Reiki vs. Tiamat if anything in which Tiamat does reign superior 👌🏼

Originally Posted by Amak

So higher raw stats are better than the 5% higher water atk from Reiki? Is that how it works?

depends on how strong your team is... 5% water atk might make a difference if you're packing some really high assault... the "meta" players probably got a grid full of assault and pride at SLv20 to make that 5% matter...

Tiamat though... possibly blows those two out the water.... pun not intended...

Tiamat has more atk than most eidolons in the game, ups the rate of double (i'm seeing 5% more chance from comments), and provides a barrier... reiki is just 5% more water attack with around 2/3rds the raw atk as Tiamat and comes with a fire resist, while JF comes with the same things as reiki (more or less), but sometimes removes a charge from bosses and has slightly higher raw atk than reiki...

it's more a case of what you need... in my case, i rolled a ton of defensinve kami and not many offensive ones (hell, my SSR in water element is Aphrodite, Snow Raphael, and Sarasvati). Jack Frost with that pretty much lets me outlast a lot of fire fights and even some off element ones (although my wind and light teams is better for that). i still tend to use reiki as a friend (and sub considering my reiki isn't MLB) but in fire fights, i'm not dying anytime soon...

Originally Posted by Slashley

As long as you keep spamming half-pots for Gem Quests and spend 100k on Gem Gacha every day, level-up fodder should be fairly easy to obtain.

SR weapons are like slvl20 in two days, though leveling up takes longer (three?). I'd imagine that Eidolons would take like a week.

Could you do more detailed explanation? for example i have 100 HE, wait for sunday/early monday, then do about 160 25 stam gold missions (a long time consumed) then do 100 gem gacha pulls per day and when all those gems are used, i will have 100 HE from gacha again? is it right scheme or i missed something?

Originally Posted by Mraktar

Could you do more detailed explanation? for example i have 100 HE, wait for sunday/early monday, then do about 160 25 stam gold missions (a long time consumed) then do 100 gem gacha pulls per day and when all those gems are used, i will have 100 HE from gacha again? is it right scheme or i missed something?

this is assuming you can drop gems on that gacha like the plague....

if you do the 100 pulls on the 10 draw alone, that's 100k gems per day...

assuming you do this all week, you'll spend 700k gems so from gem quests alone (which appear daily, along with all day sunday), you'll need to spam enough half elixirs to make up those 700k gems you spent...

depending on your luck, you might break even, you might not... i don't really pull more than 10 (sometimes i pull only 2) and i spend less than 10 in half elixirs to make up those 100k gems i spent... if it's the gem quest that's up for only 30 mins...

you more or less have to hope you pull enough half elixirs to make that up, cause outside of gem gacha, you'll have to rely on advent events to make that up (and you should have no less than 40 from the rematches we just had if you went after those).

the half elixir rate from the gem gacha is better than you'd think, but luck can still give you a big middle finger and not give many...

Originally Posted by Mraktar

Could you do more detailed explanation? for example i have 100 HE, wait for sunday/early monday, then do about 160 25 stam gold missions (a long time consumed) then do 100 gem gacha pulls per day and when all those gems are used, i will have 100 HE from gacha again? is it right scheme or i missed something?

It is estimated that when you pull 100k gemcha, you get back almost every HE you spent throughout the day. It's obviously pretty RNG biased, but you get the idea.

When u in at least 500+ ticket in and no even a single ssr yet alone a sr weapon (enchantment not included) u know this event is done for

Originally Posted by AznSamsung

When u in at least 500+ ticket in and no even a single ssr yet alone a sr weapon (enchantment not included) u know this event is done for

I remember back when I started playing, farming 4 St. Nicholas and 2 Light SSR Swords.

I wish I had such luck now.

So, I saved up all my tickets to open up all at once and record a before-and-after to check what kind ratio do the tickets have these days. My usual RNG quirk is to get 2-3 SSRs in the first 200 tickets, and then absolutely none at all afterwards. Opened up 1500 tickets, and the the pattern held true. 4 SSRs in the first 200, absolutely none in the remaining 1300.

Short version of droprates:

->Open Spoiler<-

SSR weapon 0.1% (not big enough sample for accurate data!)
SSR Eidolon 0.1% (not big enough sample for accurate data!)
SR weapons 0.6% (not big enough sample for accurate data!)

1000 Gems 13%
5 Jewels 9%
Seed 16%
+1 weapons 1%
+1 Eidolons 1%

Full data, sorted roughly by usefulness:

->Open Spoiler<-

2 SSR weapon = 2/1500 (not big enough sample for accurate data!)
2 SSR Eidolon = 2/1500 (not big enough sample for accurate data!)
9 SR weapon = 9/1500 (not big enough sample for accurate data!)

202000 gems = 202/1500
665 jewels = 133/1500
247 seeds = 247/1500

16 weapon +1 = 16/1500
14 eidolon +1 = 14/1500

30 weapon sr fodder = 30/1500
127 weapon r fodder = 127/1500
33 eidolon sr fodder = 33/1500
114 eidolon r fodder = 114/1500

118 dragon bones = 118/1500
97 lithographs = 97/1500
12 sacred stones = 12/1500
n garbage 344/1500 (not actually counted, just calculated up all the previous stuff to get 1154 items)

The most useful lesson from all of this is, this is what you can roughly expect from the 50 tickets from the "solo Rag with an off-element team" quest:
6733 Gems, 22.2 Jewels, 8.2 Seeds, 1 +1 fodder, 0.3 SR weapons, 0.13 SSRs.

If you're not strong enough for that quest in current event or future events, don't lose your sleep over it. It's fucking nothing.