Thread: New Player gaches

So I just started the game today. I like this type of games and I think I'm gonna commit to this game for a while.
So, for the good part. There are so many gachees to choose from. I'm wondering if there are some have higher chances than the rest or if some KH are better than others.
I think I understand the game so far but need to read more about upgrading skills limit break etc as I progress more into the game.
With that said, any tips would greatly help.
Thanks in advance

I personally find that the only $$ gachas that may be worth it (aka, not a total scam) are 1) Miracle Tickets, priced at $50, which let you choose any 1 Kamihime (bar the limited-time ones) released before... & 2) the SSR Kamihime release weapon guaranteed gachas (usually priced at $50, though they've dropped them to $30 on certain occasions). I guess depending on how much you want to whale, you can also go for the SSR-eido guaranteed gachas or the SSR-any guaranteed ones.

Keep in mind that from your starting point, you'll be behind in terms of competitiveness or clearing the most difficult content for quite awhile until you build up your grids. Unless you mega-whale and just buy your weapon grids from the gachas, like some do. But for the most part, if you're smart about your grid building and invest time into them, eventually (months to a year) it's possible to get to the point where you can compete against whales, without actually spending (granted you'd still a need a bit of RNG luck throughout that time).

As for starter tips, the biggest one would probably be: if your current starting account doesn't have a good roll of SSRs from the starter 6K Jewels the game gives you, just make a new account and keep re-rolling until you get something worth sticking with. Refer to the re-rolling thread linked on these forums for more info regarding that. Good luck.

I was wondering about rerolling, good thing you covered that up. Thanks a bunch.

Originally Posted by Luffy911

I was wondering about rerolling, good thing you covered that up. Thanks a bunch.

There's a re-rolling guide sticked and it covers almost everything you should know about it and how you should start.

Nowadays, re-rolling for a 100% eido is the best start you could even get.

when you get to skill leveling, there's a guide on that too. just farm assault weapons (pride ones too if you get them as they do act like assault mostly and have high stats). quick way to get stronger is to get SSR and SR assault weapons as your damage output really jumps when those weapons get high skill levels (especially on SSR).

And you might want to start off focused towards an element (if you get a 100% eidolon, focus on that element first), then spreading out to others eventually. there's a guide on that too

Oh I just saw these. Wellll, I got like 4 water SSRs from gaches and when I pulled SSR Eido I got thunder -_- I was like dammit. Thankfully, I can do the event now and get the water SSR which gonna complete my water set. Kind of, my backline is SRs but I'm not complaining lol

First welcome to the game! I hope you're going to enjoy, I know I do. Been a long term player (but took a break, then came back and really got hooked) and for what's it worth I think Kamihime is one of the most honest "freemium browser games" out there. Sure they hope that you're going to grab your wallet and invest some money, but: you don't have to.

Now... Many people talk about rerolling and plotting and all that. My advice: do take note of those but don't overvalue it too much. Because in my opinion several aspects get overrated. Sure, having a cool SSR Eidolon in your setup is good, no arguments. But the problem is that SSR is a very rare Eidolon. And that can bring problems in itself....

See: Kamihime and Eidolons have limits to their maximum level. The cool part is that you can level break them which means that you can level them up a little further. The costs for this differ. For kamihime you need various materials, which you can gain from the daily quests (not all!). But Eidolons require another Eidolon to level break. So here's my issue: considering how rare certain SSR's are, how do you expect to gain more and level break them?

Don't get me wrong though: some SSR Eidolon's are good to have no matter what, absolutely. But I still dare say that you can gain more from trying to obtain good SSR's from events and actually having a good shot at level breaking them to the max (you can then raise them to level 100) rather than having a cool but super rare SSR Eidolon which you can only upgrade to level 40 at best (which is very easy to do over time).

Since you're new: there are often events going out where you can gain items by fighting and then trading those items for rewards. For example: right now there is the Sphinx and Vritra event where you can battle either Eidolon, gain items, and then trade those in the shop (see Quests => SP quests, first page). That can also help boost your stuff.

And another tip: be sure to scope out the shop too! The single player missions gain you items too, which you can use to trade in the shop. You can even trade for Eidolons and... you may have guessed it: if you grind a bit you can gain more and then level break 'm.

Originally Posted by Luffy911

There are so many gachees to choose from. I'm wondering if there are some have higher chances than the rest or if some KH are better than others.

Others have already mentioned the paid types. Also pay attention to the Gem and magic jewel gachas. Even though they are "free" (you can easily gain gems) they're actually pretty good! You won't get more than R (rare) types out of the Gem cacha but even so: it's worth it. Magic jewels, same thing. But it's harder to get something good.

Tip: especially when you're just starting: aim for 10 gachas rather than singles. The gem gacha doesn't really matter too much afaik but the others do. Rolling 10 usually gets you some kind of (good) guaranteed drop which is always good to have.

Originally Posted by Luffy911

I think I understand the game so far but need to read more about upgrading skills limit break etc as I progress more into the game.

You do?

Sorry, just teasing. Kamihime can be tricky to get started with. But very rewarding. My tips...

Don't pay too much attention to what people tell you to do (me included!). Sure, this can lead up to good results, but in the end it's your game. Nothing beats discovering stuff on your own IMO.

Patience! Really, having patience to build up your teams and upgrading them goes a long way. Others already mentioned: expect to work on your team(s) for several weeks if not months. But it's oh so rewarding. I don't focus on a single team but instead I maintain 8 separate element teams, mixed with a few different souls. Tip: take good note of your playing style. Several kamihime (and eidolons) have different powers which can cater to different play styles. When a Kamihime is marked 'tricky' that's usually true: it can be tricky to use them to their full potential, but if you do.... yeah, well worth it. But it can take lots of patience! (some abilities only unlock and get even better at higher levels).

Do NOT underestimate R(are) type kamihime! Sure... SR and SSR are very good, especially because you can level them up more. (rare type kamihimes can only be broken 3 times; which gives you a max. level of 50. SR otoh can be broken 4 times and can go all the way up to 70). SR and SSR usually also have more and better abilities. Despite that do not make the mistake of thinking that SR is always better than R, it's not. It depends on the kamihime's abilities, your play style, the team setup, the team overall balance, etc, etc.

Make friends! And maintain your friends! Another reason why I think rerolling is sometimes overrated: if you have active friends you can use their eidolons. And well, most of my friends are just as active (even more!) as I am, giving me access to several high level eidolons, even a few level 100 types. Make friends, but also go over your friends list from time to time and get rid of inactive players. Last seen 30 days ago? Consider dumping those and then replacing them with other (more active) friends again. Why? Because you'll most likely not see their Eidolons appear in your availability lists. Active friends > inactive friends.

Speaking of friends: Feel free to add me if you'd like: 3565105 (I assume your name is the same? If not kindly share I am picky who I add or not) Dunno if I can befriend lower level players (I'm lvl 56 atm) but in this case I wouldn't mind trying

And don't forget these forums too It's a really fun place IMO.

Finally: have some fun! Don't forget what this game is all about 8)

Hope this was somewhat useful.

... oh christ, it's you again. I very, very aggressively responded last time, but you're still making the exact same mistakes. I will correct you again.

To be noted: I've basically said the same thing before here.

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

-- Now... Many people talk about rerolling and plotting and all that. My advice: do take note of those but don't overvalue it too much. Because in my opinion several aspects get overrated. Sure, having a cool SSR Eidolon in your setup is good, no arguments. But the problem is that SSR is a very rare Eidolon.--

-- But I still dare say that you can gain more from trying to obtain good SSR's from events and actually having a good shot at level breaking them to the max (you can then raise them to level 100) rather than having a cool but super rare SSR Eidolon which you can only upgrade to level 40 at best (which is very easy to do over time).--

-- Make friends! And maintain your friends! Another reason why I think rerolling is sometimes overrated: if you have active friends you can use their eidolons. --

You don't understand how the game works.

No event will come CLOSE to a P2W Eidolon. EVER. Even at 0-stars and level 1, they absolutely CRUSH any and ALL other Eidolons - even level 100 ones. Level doesn't matter. The passive effect does. And 100% at 0-stars and 120% at 4-stars is just way, WAY too much for ANYTHING else to come even close.

Maybe you don't understand what P2W Eidolons are since you keep spouting this garbage. Let's set it straight:
Fire: Belial
Water: Rudra
Wind: Hraes
Thunder: Kirin
Light: Munagarum (not out yet, name subject to change depending on Nutaku's mood)
Dark: Anubis (not out yet)
(Wind: Hanuman (not out yet, far in the future))

Out of the gacha ones, these are the ONLY Eidolons that truly matter (and Kaiser Dragoon for back-up Eidolons I guess). Sure, some of the non-P2W ones are decent, but you'll need at least 2-stars on them for them to outperform event Eidolons (once they come out, we don't have all of them yet). And getting 2-stars on a specific gacha Eidolon is hard. Basically impossible without extremely deep wallets (10k+ dollars). Even if you get a LMB gacha Eidolon, the difference in power isn't THAT much.

EXCEPT for P2W Eidolons. Which are exceedingly rare. The difference in power from these is just... out of this world. You don't need to even get 1-star on them - they're insane straight out of the box. And, you probably never will find one of these. If you want a single one, 10k dollars won't get you far. In other words, you will never, ever find one of these without paying ridiculous amounts of real money. Or... you could just reroll into one of them.

And that's why, if you reroll into a P2W Eidolon, your friend list will be full of high level people who are active and have at the very least THE best event Eidolons. Or, you can just look for other P2W Eidolon users, as many of them don't accept non-P2W owners into their friendlist. Because what's better than one P2W Eidolons? TWO P2W Eidolons!

So please, stop spouting this garbage.
"Oh but gacha Eidolons will only be level 40 so they'll be bad!" NO. WRONG. P2W Eidolons laugh at ALL level 100 Eidolons even at level 1.
"Making friends is easy and you can use their Eidolons!" NO. WRONG. Without P2W Eidolons, you'll struggle to find proper friends for a very, very long time. If you have a P2W Eidolon, you can basically pick ANY active, high level player and they'll accept your friend request.
"Rerolling is overrated!" NO. WRONG. It's not overrated, it's underappreciated. We need more P2W Eidolons into the game and rerolling is basically the only way to get them into the playerpool. That said, P2W Eidolons are exceedingly rare (somebody lately said that they're nearing 2000 accounts and found zero P2W Eidolons) and are not required - but while hunting for a P2W Eidolon account you should at the very least settle for the minimum of either two SSRs of the same element or one core SSR.

Being wrong isn't inherently bad, but only if you learn from your mistakes. Please don't make me do this a third time.

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

-- And another tip: be sure to scope out the shop too! The single player missions gain you items too, which you can use to trade in the shop.--

Please no. The only thing worth buying from the Shop is Vine (the Dark Eidolon for her active ability). For some incomprehensible reason, the SR weapons in the store have an absolutely miserable Atk stats, making them effectively entirely worthless.

Originally Posted by Slashley

No event will come CLOSE to a P2W Eidolon. EVER. Even at 0-stars and level 1, they absolutely CRUSH any and ALL other Eidolons - even level 100 ones. Level doesn't matter. The passive effect does. And 100% at 0-stars and 120% at 4-stars is just way, WAY too much for ANYTHING else to come even close.

I can just agree with this XD Zen you are underestimating 100% eidos waaay too much, they are far stronger than anything in the game atm, event eidos you can get them on the run and improve your stats slowly by just grinding, 100% eidos dont even care about the dmg formula cause they will always be superior, you should know by now how strong they are by just borrowing them, you can say that rerolling is boring and a pita etc but this "But I still dare say that you can gain more from trying to obtain good SSR's from events" is just beyond dumb.

Originally Posted by Slashley

... oh christ, it's you again. I very, very aggressively responded last time, but you're still making the exact same mistakes. I will correct you again.

Gee, I wonder why :P I guess you also failed to get any of my messages so lets try that one again as well.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Out of the gacha ones, these are the ONLY Eidolons that truly matter (and Kaiser Dragoon for back-up Eidolons I guess). Sure, some of the non-P2W ones are decent, but you'll need at least 2-stars on them for them to outperform event Eidolons (once they come out, we don't have all of them yet).

And here we go. "Outperform". It's all about trying to be the strongest, best, etc. And apparently, according to some players such as yourself, that seems to be impossible without the P2W stuff, which I still disagree with.

So what exactly does all of this gain you, other than perhaps an easier victory? It's not as if the end result, winning the battle, can't be achieved otherwise. Because as you said: the status effect is what people concentrate on, but that only goes so far. It'll mostly be your kamihime's doing the actual fighting and applying the actual damage.

But as long as people are obsessed with "easier is better" you get your kind of nonsense. You wouldn't happen to have any (financial) stakes in the Kamihime game yourself by any chance? I mean, you almost make it sound as if I'm attacking your source of income merely because I "dare" to disagree with you and vent my opinion.

Once again you also failed to show why you think I'm wrong. You don't get much further by calling my opinion garbage and keep on venting how much better those P2W Eidolons are while failing to give us any actual examples. C'mon on; lay it all out if you're at it....