Thread: New Player gaches

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

Gee, I wonder why :P I guess you also failed to get any of my messages so lets try that one again as well.


And here we go. "Outperform". It's all about trying to be the strongest, best, etc. And apparently, according to some players such as yourself, that seems to be impossible without the P2W stuff, which I still disagree with.

So what exactly does all of this gain you, other than perhaps an easier victory? It's not as if the end result, winning the battle, can't be achieved otherwise. Because as you said: the status effect is what people concentrate on, but that only goes so far. It'll mostly be your kamihime's doing the actual fighting and applying the actual damage.

But as long as people are obsessed with "easier is better" you get your kind of nonsense. You wouldn't happen to have any (financial) stakes in the Kamihime game yourself by any chance? I mean, you almost make it sound as if I'm attacking your source of income merely because I "dare" to disagree with you and vent my opinion.

Once again you also failed to show why you think I'm wrong. You don't get much further by calling my opinion garbage and keep on venting how much better those P2W Eidolons are while failing to give us any actual examples. C'mon on; lay it all out if you're at it....

I'll keep it short...

Yeah, you are right. Winning the battle can be achieved otherwise.
You have 3 options:
1. you start with your first account and don't care what himes you get from the 6k tutorial jewels
2. you reroll until you have a core Hime for a element or 2 good SSR from the same element
3. you reroll until you get an 100% Eido

I am starting to think that you aren't a logical person...

Even a SSR Core Hime for one element or 2 good SSR Hime will make you life so much easier as a newbie...
You have a good starting Hime and now you can start to max this element. After 1-2 month you will have a very good team that can do most of the current contents solo. This team will be your wildcard for months!

Now you are going to start to upgrade your other grids until they are good enough that you can run with elemental advantage and do more damage than your main team.

A FUCKING 100% EIDO will just make your team for this element just OP...

You don't need a 100% Eido to win every battle but dude those MONSTERS will just make you life for later contents (Guild Orders and Tower) so much easier.
You don't need to have one but you should always choose a 100% Eido as a support Eido.

YOU CAN PLAY HOW YOU WANT! THAT'S YOUR DECISSION BUT PLEASE DON'T TELL NEW PLAYERS SUCH A BULLSHIT!

If you have the choice to start easier with a good core hime or a 100% Eido then you should always reroll!
Basically you should always reroll for most of the gatcha games.

PS: ZenMaster please try RANK 3 or 4 Accesory quest... with your current team and strategy you will have a lot of problems!
Don't even try Guild Orders or Tower.

Originally Posted by I AM TELLING SHIT!

PS: ZenMaster please try RANK 3 or 4 Accesory quest... with your current team and strategy you will have a lot of problems!

What "current" team? I have 8 of them, each specialized in either one single element or one mixture for experimenting. I definitely agree that trying to attack thunder with a thunder team (which is mostly active b/c of the event) would be dumb. That's why I keep more around. And yes, I agree: those higher level accessory missions are more difficult. Not impossible. Not even for me.

(you can ignore this meme if you don't want to view it, i just made it for fun lol)

in my opinion, rerolling is a blessing for this game, especially for new players
because some games don't give you the option to reroll, like FGO, meaning you're basically stuck with whatever you get from the start and if RNG doesn't favor you, life is gonna be hard.

like yeah sure, that might be normal in the beginning but, would you want that to stay the same way forever?
Would you prefer your battles to last over 30 turns each time? exaggerated example i know, but obviously you wouldn't since that would be a pain in the ass to deal with every time. if 100% eidolons can make your battles just last 10 to 15 turns instead of 30 turns, I would rather take the route with less turns

most newbies to this game will always get that "roll for a 100% eido" advice or at least 2 core SSRs or something for an element of their choice), because that's the best advice they can get from them, and some old players didn't even get the option to reroll at all, much less at these recent 100% eidolons we are getting because they didn't exist at the time they began playing this game

I didn't reroll either since I placed a lot of effort into my own account before I even discovered what rerolling was, but if I had the option at that time I would have. even more so if 100% eidolons were available at that time, but no they werent lol

and let's face it- kamihime is not a newbie friendly game, some people will probably get turned off from playing this by how much you actually have to grind just to get the good stuff. and newbies won't be able to do this at all, and not for awhile until they can get on the level of ultimates (in terms of advents of course, for raids they can rely on people)
and i know that advent material cost reduction for the shop is coming close, but newbies will still have a hard time with that

But if they had a 100% eido, things will be a bit different. if they played consistently, they might not take awhile before they can do ultimates, and they'll have an easier time trying to catch up with most players because that's just how OP those 100% eidolons are. if they're not willing to spend a shit ton of cash just to roll for one (and they might not even get it) then why not get one for free? That's like the best deal you can have for this game right now and will make your life a lot more easier in future content, and as people said they'll attract a LOT of strong players with a full set of MLB'ed support eidos even at just a low rank. I don't even understand why someone would want to go the hard and slow way now..
I know it's not impossible to become strong in this game without those 100% eidos, but if you were in the beginning of a raid while someone else was using that, there's is NO WAY you can steal MVP from that guy especially if he has a decent grid + team. Having one of those is just a fast way to becoming strong, and why not take it?

tl;dr
100% eidos make life easier for newbies in the beginning, its like riding a racecar compared to a normal car
if you want actual examples on how they make life easier then (these ones are kinda common sense)
-much easier to add high rank players, let alone whales for a shit ton of good support eidos already at the beginning of the game
-you can use that element to clear all kinds of content with ease, especially in the future (except the element you're weak against)
-you won't need to farm any other eido for that element in main spot because 100% eidolons are irreplaceable as main eido

Originally Posted by BlazeRai

in my opinion, rerolling is a blessing for this game, especially for new players
because some games don't give you the option to reroll, like FGO.

This is false, you can re-roll in FGO. Whether it is a hassle to do or not, that's another issue.

Holy hell this thread derailed quite quickly...

Let me just tl;dr this for the new player:

1. If you're just playing this game casually, don't really care about optimal progress, just play it as normal, and have fun!
2. If you're gonna cash, consider rerolling for a 100% eidolon or a really good team of core kamihime before actually cashing to get the most out of your account.
3. If you're taking this game seriously, it's almost necessary to reroll for a near perfect account, unless you'd like to try your hand at hard mode like VeryVoodoo mentions.

Of course, if you're trying to grab himes for their scenes... This thread does it for you, for free. Although you have to do some manual labour in terms of downloading. https://harem-battle.club/kamihime-p...ollecting.html

That is all.

off topic- just ignore me, this is completely unrelated to this thread:

Originally Posted by Laventale

This is false, you can re-roll in FGO. Whether it is a hassle to do or not, that's another issue.

the kind of "easy rerolling" i was talking about was simply making an account and clicking the gacha, like what we do in kamihime

the "rerolling" u were referring to in FGO is being forced to clear every single mission in the first singularity which would take you awhile, so i dont really consider it as an easy option to reroll. plus you don't really just simply delete your account on that game because there's no "delete account" button for it
i dont consider rerolling for the "free" tutorial gacha either, game gives you like what, 30 saint quartz which is equivalent to 3k jewels but you're forced to spend it on that tutorial gacha thing where you can't even get a free 5/SSR star servant lol. the best you can get is a 4 star/SR servant, and unless you're lucky you wont even get one of the good SR servants, and the selection is limited as well plus the rates for a 5 star, let alone a 4 star servant is much MUCH lower in that game unlike kamihime rates where SR himes are easily obtainable

in the past it didnt used to be like that, newbies were free to spend that 30 SQ gift at the beginning and keep on creating accounts for easy rerolls, but now you can't, and if kamihime does that here, like make a tutorial gacha only containing SR himes and no SSRs at all then that would suck, and its why im saying the kind of rerolling we have at kamihime is a blessing to newbies who got attracted to this game