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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    there a way to avoid these 3 def up in start?my dmg go down from 11k to 3-4k , it is not fun fight her in turtle mode with the massive dmg from he NORMAL special messing up with my full burst
    The only way I found so far to prevent this is to have her under Paralyze. I dont know if Charm also works, could be as it also prevents her from an action, but Paralyze 100% works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoshira View Post
    The only way I found so far to prevent this is to have her under Paralyze. I dont know if Charm also works, could be as it also prevents her from an action, but Paralyze 100% works.
    But won't she just do it after it wears off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    But won't she just do it after it wears off?
    Since she is able to act again, of course she would be able to do it. If you manage her down to below 50% you only have to deal with one round of buffs and not two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoshira View Post
    Since she is able to act again, of course she would be able to do it. If you manage her down to below 50% you only have to deal with one round of buffs and not two.
    That is not true. If you get her below 50% before she acts, she will apply the buffs on her first turn, then again on her 2nd. The 2 triggers, 1st Turn and 50% health, are independent of each other. You can see this in the first video that I shared on my Rag run.

    Also, Charm will work at delaying her 1st use as well. She got delayed for 2 turns in my first video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlickFenix View Post
    That is not true. If you get her below 50% before she acts, she will apply the buffs on her first turn, then again on her 2nd. The 2 triggers, 1st Turn and 50% health, are independent of each other. You can see this in the first video that I shared on my Rag run.

    Also, Charm will work at delaying her 1st use as well. She got delayed for 2 turns in my first video.
    Oh really? Then I eat my own words and stand corrected. Havent watched the video and was thinking about usual trigger behaviour in this case. My bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itoshira View Post
    Oh really? Then I eat my own words and stand corrected. Havent watched the video and was thinking about usual trigger behaviour in this case. My bad.
    No worries. I had the same thought as well until I actually went through it on my first run (which is the recording I shared). After she applied the first time I figured that since she was below 50% I should be good, so I used my Chaos Magic. Next turn she applied again :facepalm: Just had to brute force the rest.

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    For some clarification, the keyword here isn't first turn, but first action. If I'm not mistaken this applies to all bosses who got some sort of trigger at the start of the battle. So yeah, as Slick said, if the boss first action is delayed, then it will still stick to the pattern.
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    did the reduce the mats needed to fully limit break this event, seems a LOT lower..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladeda View Post
    did the reduce the mats needed to fully limit break this event, seems a LOT lower..
    If you get absolutely everything, it'll cost a few more gold mats than before, but that's just because there's way more stuff though you can get now. The items themselves are a lot cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    But won't she just do it after it wears off?
    She will, but by then she's dead.

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