Thread: Guild Orders Megathread

My Mordred run was surprisingly trivial with combo attack down as EX. The fight took a while, but I didn't even need to use potions since the main threat is the combo attacks. Combining Gaia and Set seems like it'd make encounters like this go very smoothly.

Hahaha oh my god. Jesus the difference between Mordred (no PF) and Hercules (PF) is SO HUGE.

With Hercules? Quetz dies on turn 4, after spending two turns buffing herself. Zero threat.
With Mordred? I almost wiped after my turn3 FB didn't even get her to half health, so Overdrive happened instead of Trigger. Jesus, Herc team basically KILLS HER and now I didn't even take half off? Oooomph.

It's really hard to understate just how important PF is, and thus by extension, Hercules(/Shingen if your build is better suited for her, which should be rare for now).

Originally Posted by Slashley

Hahaha oh my god. Jesus the difference between Mordred (no PF) and Hercules (PF) is SO HUGE.

With Hercules? Quetz dies on turn 4, after spending two turns buffing herself. Zero threat.
With Mordred? I almost wiped after my turn3 FB didn't even get her to half health, so Overdrive happened instead of Trigger. Jesus, Herc team basically KILLS HER and now I didn't even take half off? Oooomph.

It's really hard to understate just how important PF is, and thus by extension, Hercules(/Shingen if your build is better suited for her, which should be rare for now).

What BS are you talking... if you need PF + ele adv to kill her fast, then there is really something wrong...
I did it with off-ele + Anubis support and Mordred. She was in rage after 3T and after burst in stun.
Some guys in my Union killed her in 4T without PF and tbh I don't have Shingen yet.

Is your fire team that bad?

-35% Def without Herc (which should be normal for non-whales), 113% Assault (due to one pure Defender in there as I have zero dual skills in Fire), ~40k attack per Hime, 50k on the swords icon. And yes, that was with Belial. Really, just about what you should expect from anyone who hasn't lucked out with Mars/Svarog/Uriel.
So no, my Fire team shouldn't be "that bad." It's nothing special, but it's decent.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Some guys in my Union killed her in 4T without PF and tbh I don't have Shingen yet.

It's possible to kill Quetz on turn1 with a perfect Fire team (so Quetz doesn't even get to buff up, much less attack), so that kind of bragging is kind of pointless, don't you think? You didn't even specify if this was on or off element.

Originally Posted by Slashley

-35% Def without Herc (which should be normal for non-whales), 113% Assault (due to one pure Defender in there as I have zero dual skills in Fire), ~40k attack per Hime, 50k on the swords icon. And yes, that was with Belial. Really, just about what you should expect from anyone who hasn't lucked out with Mars/Svarog/Uriel.
So no, my Fire team shouldn't be "that bad." It's nothing special, but it's decent.It's possible to kill Quetz on turn1 with a perfect Fire team (so Quetz doesn't even get to buff up, much less attack), so that kind of bragging is kind of pointless, don't you think? You didn't even specify if this was on or off element.

To be honst I thought you had an amazing fire team with Svarog
And yes he has an perfect fire team with Svarog+Uriel.

But I am using Pluto and Chernobog both do 600k burst on her.

Cant even pass first stage, this event is crazy lol

Originally Posted by Unregistered

To be honst I thought you had an amazing fire team with Svarog
And yes he has an perfect fire team with Svarog+Uriel.

But I am using Pluto and Chernobog both do 600k burst on her.

Nope. My SSRs for Fire are Amaterasu, Yamaraja (who did not participate in this run due to making way for Brynhildr as I knew this run would be slower and thus require more healing), Acala (who doesn't fit into teams until Awakening as she's quite bad, assuming you have any of the Fire SR queens) and... Ares. Come to think of it, Awakened Ares carries my Fire team pretty hard, so I guess I shouldn't have said "nothing special."

Anyway, I purposedly didn't use Ares' nuke in the first three turns. Because with Herc, if I do, then it's Rage before turn 3 and Full Burst will Stun -> trigger1 happens but doesn't take away bubbles due to Stun. So it's better to Full Burst INTO Rage state -> Quetz has 1 bubble after trigger1. And as I said, pretty much entirely dead at this point, if not fully dead.

With Mordred, I applied the same idea. I didn't push into Rage, Full Burst on turn3 at full bubbles, hit reload aaaaand... what. One Hime is dead, multiple highly wounded, Quetz doesn't have buffs up... what? Oh right, Rage Overdrive happened since apparently I didn't reach 50%. Welp, unleash Ares nuke and starting working off the Rage bar. That wasn't quite how things were supposed to go, but seriously, I was NOT expecting such a gigantic difference in Full Bursting power. Maybe I should have since PF and -50% Def for the rest of the Hime, but... yeah.

Again, you really can't undersell the importance of PF and Hercules.

Originally Posted by Seraphim01

Cant even pass first stage, this event is crazy lol

Guild Orders are for old players. You basically have no hope of completing them until you have 80%+ Grid. Once you start getting to that point, you should start being able to grab an Ori or two per two weeks.

Once you have fully leveled Grid (this is usually around 120% Assault), 3 or 5 Ori per two weeks shouldn't be an issue. Not sure about 5, since that requires full points which may require specific SSRs in some elements.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Once you have fully leveled Grid (this is usually around 120% Assault), 3 or 5 Ori per two weeks shouldn't be an issue. Not sure about 5, since that requires full points which may require specific SSRs in some elements.

tbh you just need one team that can clear everything
So far my dark and light team cleared all GO. But I prefer ele adv with R missions because I don't have Shingen yet.
Either you lack survivability and heal or you don't hit enough. If you hit enough you don't need heal I prefer dmg cut over heal tbh, expect of Drag currently.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Again, you really can't undersell the importance of PF and Hercules.

Again I don't have PF and I am sure some player who started later like with Icarus, Tiamat or Barong Event have to do it without anyway!
My point is you don't need PF to kill that b!tch in 4T even with off-element, but that's only if you have the "hard hitting" KHs like Svarog AW, Uriel (AW this month), Pluto, Chernobog, Water with Asherah and so on.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

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Either you lack survivability and heal or you don't hit enough. If you hit enough you don't need heal I prefer dmg cut over heal tbh, expect of Drag currently.

I mean you don't hit HARD* enough.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Again I don't have PF --

Just because it isn't absolutely REQUIRED to clear doesn't mean undervalue it at all. I mean, it's POSSIBLE to clear with full Rs if you want. But using SRs/SSRs is just so much easier. Just like using PF simply makes it waayyy easier.