Thread: Guild Orders Megathread

Seems Ygg uses her special even when stunned? Wasn't really paying attention but she did a single hit attack that downed one of my himes basically at full hp while she was in stun. I should probably have just bursted at 0 charge instead of holding til she was fully charged. I would probably have gotten a couple turns of stun and another free turn or two til she gets 2 orb. Well, going back to Shingen tomorrow will probably make it irrelevant.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

Seems Ygg uses her special even when stunned? Wasn't really paying attention but she did a single hit attack that downed one of my himes basically at full hp while she was in stun. I should probably have just bursted at 0 charge instead of holding til she was fully charged. I would probably have gotten a couple turns of stun and another free turn or two til she gets 2 orb. Well, going back to Shingen tomorrow will probably make it irrelevant.

She does. As long as she's at 2 orbs (full charge) and below 30% HP she'll use her special trigger. Even during stun. This kind of thing applies for all other special triggers which require the orb meter to be basically at overdrive levels: when they're at full orbs boss will activate trigger even when stunned.

Oh, and BP doesn't prolong the timer, at least for now, to reiterate. Boss will just special trigger at 2 orbs, then proceed to rage overdrive next turn at 3 orbs.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

She does. As long as she's at 2 orbs (full charge) and below 30% HP she'll use her special trigger. Even during stun. This kind of thing applies for all other special triggers which require the orb meter to be basically at overdrive levels: when they're at full orbs boss will activate trigger even when stunned.

Oh, and BP doesn't prolong the timer, at least for now, to reiterate. Boss will just special trigger at 2 orbs, then proceed to rage overdrive next turn at 3 orbs.

As I wasn't paying complete attention to her HP, I felt like I was much under that 30% HP mark after I full bursted but she didn't use her special instead charged a 3rd orb as I had Black Prop on during my D'art light ream run. So thought I missed something, though I could have just been on the borderline HP mark.

The thing is, I don't think I can push her below 30% HP without having to stun her with my teams. Saving skills to push into rage a 0 charges and using a full burst to push out of rage on the same turn seems more safe for me, as I'll have several free turns to finish her off and avoid it altogether.

I guess if you bursted right before rage to increase the amount of HP she loses, you could get her to use her special during rage and possibly in place of a raging overdrive but unless you're using a team that can finish her off during that time before she starts tossing raging overdrives at you, it seems much riskier. Worst case scenario is you eat multiple raging overdrives and her special.

Though this really only matters when doing the all units alive mission.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

As I wasn't paying complete attention to her HP, I felt like I was much under that 30% HP mark after I full bursted but she didn't use her special instead charged a 3rd orb as I had Black Prop on during my D'art light ream run. So thought I missed something, though I could have just been on the borderline HP mark.

The thing is, I don't think I can push her below 30% HP without having to stun her with my teams. Saving skills to push into rage a 0 charges and using a full burst to push out of rage on the same turn seems more safe for me, as I'll have several free turns to finish her off and avoid it altogether.

I guess if you bursted right before rage to increase the amount of HP she loses, you could get her to use her special during rage and possibly in place of a raging overdrive but unless you're using a team that can finish her off during that time before she starts tossing raging overdrives at you, it seems much riskier. Worst case scenario is you eat multiple raging overdrives and her special.

Though this really only matters when doing the all units alive mission.

Indeed, if your burst is strong enough to clean up an entire rage phase, go for it, that's pretty optimal.

My "guide" only really works well for those who are unable to do so, since iirc the boss might not yet be stunned at 30% HP, hence the worry about eating the trigger and the overdrive.

Again with the clear and someone dying.

I'm gonna kill someone I swear.

I didn't even know about the special trigger but AW Gaia just ate it anyway to finish a perfect run. Now I can just wing the rest of the week with D'art.

Yggdrasil vs. Rs with Shingen. Had a bit of struggle to pace things, since I didn't have Herc this time around, just Hraes with her CD10, but in exchange I had PF to significantly boost my burst output. Another R clear to the collection.

Originally Posted by Aidoru

As I wasn't paying complete attention to her HP, I felt like I was much under that 30% HP mark after I full bursted but she didn't use her special instead charged a 3rd orb as I had Black Prop on during my D'art light ream run. So thought I missed something, though I could have just been on the borderline HP mark.

The thing is, I don't think I can push her below 30% HP without having to stun her with my teams. Saving skills to push into rage a 0 charges and using a full burst to push out of rage on the same turn seems more safe for me, as I'll have several free turns to finish her off and avoid it altogether.

I guess if you bursted right before rage to increase the amount of HP she loses, you could get her to use her special during rage and possibly in place of a raging overdrive but unless you're using a team that can finish her off during that time before she starts tossing raging overdrives at you, it seems much riskier. Worst case scenario is you eat multiple raging overdrives and her special.

Though this really only matters when doing the all units alive mission.

Something that we tried testing with Jorm was her trigger and how BP affects it. It seems that triggers of this kind (reliant on full orb charge) get thrown off when using BP. Without BP you can predict exactly when she'll use it and be ready for it. But when you use BP it seems to go all weird. A few of my Jorm vids was me trying to test it out with BP and there were time where it when off when I was unprepared and didn't think it should be going off.

Originally Posted by SlickFenix

Something that we tried testing with Jorm was her trigger and how BP affects it. It seems that triggers of this kind (reliant on full orb charge) get thrown off when using BP. Without BP you can predict exactly when she'll use it and be ready for it. But when you use BP it seems to go all weird. A few of my Jorm vids was me trying to test it out with BP and there were time where it when off when I was unprepared and didn't think it should be going off.

Yeah, my run with BP didn't go as smoothly yesterday, so today I used VoF for Sniper Shot and other debuffs.

Crisp and clean.

The first GO I can beat, with Arthur and her soul weapon I can barely beat her with 4 hime left.

Then I tried with Andromeda without her soul weapon, the fight is much easier, manage to beat it with 7 kamihime alive (using revive)

Done all mission except D'art since I have no wind gun for her. probably can't get another 9 point next week so only 2 orichalcon.