Thread: Soul weapon discussion

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I have michael, which will soon awaken to a burst machine. So i am planning on switching from Herc to using Shingen with my light team when that happens and Shingen gets buffed also.

My question is which soul weapon should i focus on for shingen. A lot of people seem to favor the lance. Is the 30% elemental attack from lance worth giving up the 300% burst damage if i *should* be able to keep up with burst using Michael?

Mike AW give you a faster burst cycle, and you will need the lance to keep up with that fast cycle

Main reasons for using the Lance on Shingen:

With the additional 15 BG she gets from her first skill, you can ensure that she can burst after using Provisional Forest. With Michael you can directly Burst on the same turn if Shingen has 95 BG.
Additionally, you also wanna ensure that she has enough BG when you reach your next PF-Cycle, which you pretty much do with the extra BG aswell. Outside of that, she can also happen to have a single Burst during your PF-Cooldown, which speeds up the BG of your Hime aswell.

In conclusion: Lance gives you just so much more safety when it comes to BG gain and buffed FBs.

That's also not 300% burst damage you're giving up; the burst performance buff from awakened Michael's San Michel includes +100% burst damage. That plus PF's 200% leaves you 200% short of the cap. Anything else you have that offers +burst damage further closes the gap.

Originally Posted by Itoshira

With the additional 15 BG she gets from her first skill, you can ensure that she can burst after using Provisional Forest. --

That's no longer necessary after Shingen's new EX, though.

Still, I'd also recommend the Lance. 30% Elemental is nothing to scoff at, unless you're running double P2W Eidolons.

Originally Posted by Slashley

That's no longer necessary after Shingen's new EX, though.

Still, I'd also recommend the Lance. 30% Elemental is nothing to scoff at, unless you're running double P2W Eidolons.

15 extra BG is still what's gonna confirm you into being able to FB on the very turn you cast your PF, along with her MEX tho.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

15 extra BG is still what's gonna confirm you into being able to FB on the very turn you cast your PF, along with her MEX tho.

Technically, Michael+non-buffed first skill+MEX (is "MEX" a thing now?) is enough, but that just kills your next burst cycle.

So yeah, I do agree with you.

MEX takes too much context right now; it requires knowing that Master Points come in the future, knowing that souls can use said MP to learn up to 2 new EX skills each, and that one of the new ones for the Shingen line of souls is +20 burst to all on a 6 turn cooldown. And none of us ever refer to it by something resembling its name as this stuff isn't out here yet and we don't know the official translation's gonna be.
(btw, it's 鼓舞激励, or Kobugekirei. If you plug it into an online dictionary like jisho.org, you get back 'encouragement')

Originally Posted by Unregistered

MEX takes too much context right now; it requires knowing that Master Points come in the future, knowing that souls can use said MP to learn up to 2 new EX skills each, and that one of the new ones for the Shingen line of souls is +20 burst to all on a 6 turn cooldown. And none of us ever refer to it by something resembling its name as this stuff isn't out here yet and we don't know the official translation's gonna be.
(btw, it's 鼓舞激励, or Kobugekirei. If you plug it into an online dictionary like jisho.org, you get back 'encouragement')

MEX = Master EX skill. Nothing complicated there. You're not gonna tell me any community refers to game terms with 100% fidelity to the official terms.

Also, what context is required out of knowing you have extra EX skills available to use? You just need to know it's there, and you can use them in the future. Done. Simple.