Thread: [Event 55] Raid Battle vs Trivia

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Cute, only to get cucked on both her scenes.

You now know my pain.

Her skillset looks lowkey ass to me though btw. Sure heal, but I demand moar

Ok jokes aside not too bad, but not the most stellar thing. Heal can be appreciated when you don't already have Osiris.

She is one of the best SR attacker/buffer for Dark, you are saying like heal is the only thing that matter.

Originally Posted by Mirage

She is one of the best SR attacker/buffer for Dark, you are saying like heal is the only thing that matter.

Comments were based on the idea that SSRs are available to you, example Osiris covers her heal, Pluto covers her buff etc... though suppose that means nothing since most don't get the luxury of choice.

I'm not saying don't go for her, just saying I don't like her.

Edit: though looking through the pool of dark SRs so far... I do admit I've completely undersold how useful an SR she is

Double edit:

Sorry for breach of forum etiquette, I'mma have to double post for the notification to come out. I'll fuse my post once this gets addressed.

Originally Posted by kitty

Expert/Rag - Normal Overdrive - dmg to all allies, grants either rampage or paralyze to all allies. (At 50% HP and when raging begins, she removes all debuffs from herself, and an ATK buff triggers, so it can stack to x2 ATK buff)
Raging Overdrive deals large dmg to all allies, and gives herself ATK/DEF debuff (she cleanses herself of all debuffs if still raging after her overdrive.)

A few corrections I'd like to point out. In addition, I'd like to throw in a cleaner list of Trivia's skillset.

Applies to both expert and ragna.

Normal Overdrive: Randomly uses
1. AoE dmg + Paralyse (2T)
2. AoE dmg + Beserk (2T)

Raging Overdrive: AoE big dmg + self ATK and DEF down (20s)

Special:
Triggers first at 75% HP (very slightly after boss enters rage) and again at 50% HP (close to stun). Overdrive has priority over special trigger
Cleanses self from ALL debuffs and casts ATK up (non-stacking, 60s)
Special trigger can be delayed if boss is stunned with the overdrive meter maxed. Boss will use special trigger twice if you manage to take her down from less than 75% HP to below 50% HP without her using the trigger.

So the fixes are:
1. atk up buff from special trigger doesn't stack, they're the same frame.
2. raging overdrive only debuff lasts only 20 seconds.
3. the description of the special trigger cleaned up.
4. first instance of special trigger at 75% HP. This is the part which I haven't fully confirmed, considering the DMM wiki also mentions that it triggers with first rage. What could be the case might be that boss enters first rage slightly before 75% HP, and therefore most players can treat the trigger as "starts with first rage" because they do enough damage to hit the 75% HP mark. Might be accurate for both expert and ragna. This point might be a small nitpick however, it shouldn't change the strategy too much.

Edit: Number 2 was wrong. Trivia does cast self atk down, same 20s duration.

Also, this video at 2:09 min mark confirms that rage alone is not the trigger.

Whats the difference between raid event and advent event? Should new player doing this raid event? (I main wind)

Originally Posted by Seraphim01

Whats the difference between raid event and advent event? Should new player doing this raid event? (I main wind)

Advents are strictly solo events, you get stages to clear to farm materials which you exchange for stuff in shop.

Raid battles are a matter of reaching maximum 250 divine souls (normal and expert drops) and 100 devil souls (ragnarok drops) to get a set list of rewards, along with gathering raid gacha tickets which drop from every raid. You can host the raid yourself using AP (and summon drops from the lower tier raid, you need 3 summon drops from normal to host an expert for example), or you can join someone's raid using BP. You'll likely be doing the latter option, and that's how most new players will clear this event.

Should a new player do it? No reason not to. Newbies will most often get carried by higher level players in raids, and besides the rewards are great, even if you don't main the element. SSR eido and weapons are a must to keep unless they're trash, you get 23 premium gacha tickets and 3k jewels if you get all the divine and devil souls, and you get quite a lot of stuff from the raid gacha tickets, which drop pretty often from raids.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Advents are strictly solo events, you get stages to clear to farm materials which you exchange for stuff in shop.

Woah, raid event is better than advent event. Advent event is too punishing for new player. I really want to get more sr wind assault, but i will wait till i get the eido. Thx cobble

Originally Posted by Seraphim01

Woah, raid event is better than advent event. Advent event is too punishing for new player. I really want to get more sr wind assault, but i will wait till i get the eido. Thx cobble

Raids are better for starters, Advents are better for semi-experienced players and veterans.

Originally Posted by nonsensei

In fact, even Caspy is part of that story. She was working as a guard in the moon lab & I think she tried to start up a revolt against the experiments, but ended up sealed away & banished... if my memory serves me right.

IS THIS, THIS GAME'S LORE, WHAT YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT?

ARE Y'ALL DISCUSSING LORE ON THIS FORUM?!

I love you, guys ♥

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Raid battles are a matter of reaching maximum 250 divine souls (normal and expert drops) and 100 devil souls (ragnarok drops) to get a set list of rewards, along with gathering raid gacha tickets which drop from every raid. You can host the raid yourself using AP (and summon drops from the lower tier raid, you need 3 summon drops from normal to host an expert for example), or you can join someone's raid using BP. You'll likely be doing the latter option, and that's how most new players will clear this event.

Should a new player do it? No reason not to. Newbies will most often get carried by higher level players in raids, and besides the rewards are great, even if you don't main the element. SSR eido and weapons are a must to keep unless they're trash, you get 23 premium gacha tickets and 3k jewels if you get all the divine and devil souls, and you get quite a lot of stuff from the raid gacha tickets, which drop pretty often from raids.

Most players will just want to farm the 50 Blue Souls and 55 Red Souls for the SSR weapon and eidolon. Returns diminish greatly after that. Don't burn too many BP consumables because you'll want to save some for Catastrophes. That's your ticket to easy SR assault weapons and Soul weapons, which can be an excellent power boost. Don't forget to farm the 15AP Disaster for your primary element 3x a day outside Advent events.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Most players will just want to farm the 50 Blue Souls and 55 Red Souls for the SSR weapon and eidolon. Returns diminish greatly after that. Don't burn too many BP consumables because you'll want to save some for Catastrophes. That's your ticket to easy SR assault weapons and Soul weapons, which can be an excellent power boost. Don't forget to farm the 15AP Disaster for your primary element 3x a day outside Advent events.

Are you sure about that Sana? Most players that I see go after the full 250/100 clear for Raid events. Seeds are easy to get from Disaster/Catastrophe drops as well as daily Gemcha. If a new player paces themselves well enough they can get away with clearing the event with only 100 seeds. I used to do that when I first started.

In fact, I would be very interested in taking a poll just to see what the majority of people do (although that data may be skewed because the only people that would see it are the ones here and in discord, and those are the people that I usually see clear all rewards).

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Sorry for breach of forum etiquette, I'mma have to double post for the notification to come out. I'll fuse my post once this gets addressed.



A few corrections I'd like to point out. In addition, I'd like to throw in a cleaner list of Trivia's skillset.

Applies to both expert and ragna.

Normal Overdrive: Randomly uses
1. AoE dmg + Paralyse (2T)
2. AoE dmg + Beserk (2T)

Raging Overdrive: AoE big dmg + self ATK and DEF down (20s)

Special:
Triggers first at 75% HP (very slightly after boss enters rage) and again at 50% HP (close to stun). Overdrive has priority over special trigger
Cleanses self from ALL debuffs and casts ATK up (non-stacking, 60s)
Special trigger can be delayed if boss is stunned with the overdrive meter maxed. Boss will use special trigger twice if you manage to take her down from less than 75% HP to below 50% HP without her using the trigger.

So the fixes are:
1. atk up buff from special trigger doesn't stack, they're the same frame.
2. raging overdrive only debuff lasts only 20 seconds.
3. the description of the special trigger cleaned up.
4. first instance of special trigger at 75% HP. This is the part which I haven't fully confirmed, considering the DMM wiki also mentions that it triggers with first rage. What could be the case might be that boss enters first rage slightly before 75% HP, and therefore most players can treat the trigger as "starts with first rage" because they do enough damage to hit the 75% HP mark. Might be accurate for both expert and ragna. This point might be a small nitpick however, it shouldn't change the strategy too much.

Edit: Number 2 was wrong. Trivia does cast self atk down, same 20s duration.

Also, this video at 2:09 min mark confirms that rage alone is not the trigger.

oof thank u my dud, at least you're not a jerk about it
i kinda just skimmed through that same vid and uhuh oof
ah well at least we can both say that it's better to solo this raid than join smhhhhh tho aab ez af