Thread: [Event 55] Raid Battle vs Trivia

My target audience are those who don't play this game as a second job. Those who do have little need for my advice; they can go immerse themselves in the resources provided by the Japanese community.

If you want to get even more in-depth, then you can look at the cut off point for the average PP daily needed to clear the 3mil quota for union events and see how many people even reached it. The score showing in the ranking thread shows the most PP one gained in a single day. Assuming around 375k PP gain is the average per day required for a 8 day event (the last wind union event), the cut off point is around the 2500th-ish ranked player. The other 7500ish players failed to get enough to meet the daily amount and since the score is based on the most gain in a single day, they didn't get anymore for the other days thus not even completing the solo 3m. There are a lot of other variables but if that many people aren't completing their union event, then there's likely many that aren't completing raid events either.

And a small extra tidbit, most of the scores provided by users here, in comparison to the participant count, is that many got into the 1st~1000th rank despite the participants count being around 10k. While its still a wide range, it's still high up there as a whole. So it's probably not the best to use users here as the basis for setting the standard for what most players can or will achieve when everyone is as strong as they are.

I don't really count PP anymore since all it gives is Tickets. A newbie can just jump in 1 hit a boss, go to menu, do the same thing again, and get all the rewards. While that is a bit absurd, they could do it.

Originally Posted by SlickFenix

I don't really count PP anymore since all it gives is Tickets. A newbie can just jump in 1 hit a boss, go to menu, do the same thing again, and get all the rewards. While that is a bit absurd, they could do it.

It's more likely newbies don't even know about that method to begin with.

Although depending how new the person is, I wouldn't recommend it to them as it burns through a fair amount of seeds/elixirs and it doesn't provide those resources back as you're not getting much tickets with this method. While gem gacha does exist, spending 100k a day for some seeds/elixirs as a new player is unlikely. I think the one who originally asked about raid events that started the discussion only started a week ago?

Originally Posted by SlickFenix

If that's your target audience, then why are you giving that advice to someone who is not part of your target audience?

Because Seraphim01 PM'd me and asked for advice. I chose to provide it here. Is that a problem?

Does every minor thing anyone says which deviates from the consensus of a certain segment of the community have to turn into a confrontation and major debate? Discussion arising from intellectual curiosity is one thing, but does no one else find this constant fault-hunting annoying and disruptive? I see it happening over and over again in many of the topics I've read lately, even ones I don't participate in.

meanwhile i am sitting here, thinking 3k jews and 23 tickets are 33 rolls, which is close to the average of required rolls for an ssr.
in my book, must have.
Bare minimum ssr weapon and eido complete and as much of those items mentioned above as time allows without sacrificing anything else in RL.
What people seem to not mention, going for more souls = more tickets = chances to roll more weapons/eidos/fodder/seeds/gems. Its not only the rewards, but the stuff you get on top through the tickets.

Don't really care about seeds/HE's used, what i do value is time. How much is everyone willing to spend on this game is their own choice.

But on topic, i do think that people that care enough about the game to get a minimum amount of information from forums, should aim for as many rewards as possible, since some will stick around for longer, and bite themselfes in the rear later that they did not finish the event.

Originally Posted by LeCrestfallen

But on topic, i do think that people that care enough about the game to get a minimum amount of information from forums, should aim for as many rewards as possible, since some will stick around for longer, and bite themselfes in the rear later that they did not finish the event.

I've been playing this game casually since the beginning and I'm doing just fine. Just got to play efficiently and know what to prioritize.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I've been playing this game casually since the beginning and I'm doing just fine. Just got to play efficiently and know what to prioritize.

Iirc you're also not completely F2P. In fact you even get paid my Nutaku for all the people that sign up through your links.

If they ask for help in DMs, and you choose to answer in public, then how about you share their questions to you so that we can also give feedback on their questions. Just you spouting out like that without any context that we see gives us the impression that you're telling this to everyone.

Plus you automatically assume what "most players" are doing when you can't make that claim because you don't have actual data. You then go on to state your opinion that the rest of the rewards aren't really worth the effort. Sure a player can get better over time, but if they never (or rarely) draw from Gacha then their teams are not going to progress very well, because they won't get the much needed abiliteis from Kami that they need to get from Gacha. Whales can certainly play with that minimum effort, and last I checked they are not your target audience. A F2P player will be stuck with sub-par teams for a while slowly getting stronger. Slow progress kills most peoples interest, imo.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I've been playing this game casually since the beginning and I'm doing just fine. Just got to play efficiently and know what to prioritize.

Perhaps a better approach is to first ask the person looking for advice what he wants to do: be hardcore or play casually, because otherwise it would feel like forcing a playstyle on other people.

Either that, or you could just offer perspectives from both playstyles. I really don't see the harm putting in the extra effort, other than you're putting in extra effort.

Why are ppl recommending getting the ssr weapon even though its not their main element? Isnt it a waste for new player to burn their resources for smtg that they will only use later or wont use at all?

Btw, i am quite an active player. Its usual to have different opinion, its just depend on the person which advice he(me) wanna take, besides i like to see every1 way of playing the game and see what is the best for me to take based on my resource and playstyle.

Thank you every1 for your suggestion.