Thread: [Event 56] Advent Battle vs Phoenix (Rematch)

Originally Posted by x255

Do we now have Nukaku/DMM employees shilling for their hentai casino here?

"Odds shmodds, you just need luck! Don't be a boring sheepie! Just do it! And if you like it, just buy it!"

Dude, if you wanna steal my joke...

at least give me reputation for making it first

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Dude, if you wanna steal my joke...

at least give me reputation for making it first

Sorry, I didn't know you was first to write about it, but I thought its really obvious

Anyway, even odds aside, IMO someone needs to be straight mark or having more money than sense to invest it into anything that Nutaku hosts. Since they are very well known by now for shutting down even popular games without much of recourse (and often with zilch compensation).
And when they do it, all these whales tell their super-rare-bought-with-many-dollars characters/stuff bye-bye. "No refunds, sorry, you had your fun! Now start rolling with a new one!". Happened before, you can bet it will happen again, sooner or later.

Originally Posted by x255

Sorry, I didn't know you was first to write about it, but I thought its really obvious

Anyway, even odds aside, IMO someone needs to be straight mark or having more money than sense to invest it into anything that Nutaku hosts. Since they are very well known by now for shutting down even popular games without much of recourse (and often with zilch compensation).
And when they do it, all these whales tell their super-rare-bought-with-many-dollars characters/stuff bye-bye. "No refunds, sorry, you had your fun! Now start rolling with a new one!". Happened before, you can bet it will happen again, sooner or later.

Nah don't take it too seriously, I was joking.

Also... yeah unfortunately. I haven't heard many good things about nutaku hosting games. Fingers crossed it'll at least sustain till the next year or so though.

Welp, got to psych myself up for the endeavour that is getting an extra bow to drop, all for the sake of that 2x FLB phoenix bow dream. At least my half-elixir supply is ready for it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Welp, got to psych myself up for the endeavour that is getting an extra bow to drop, all for the sake of that 2x FLB phoenix bow dream. At least my half-elixir supply is ready for it.

Actually, the bow is way easier to get with the material nerfs now. The actual hard one to get is the HP and heal buff weapon, which almost no one will bother to get...

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Actually, the bow is way easier to get with the material nerfs now. The actual hard one to get is the HP and heal buff weapon, which almost no one will bother to get...

FLB is already here with that Advent and "nobody" will get it...
Yea ofc, just ditch free SSR fodder to level that FLB weapon faster.
Nice idea. Good Job!

No no, I need the drop to complete the first bow; it's only at 2*.

Same applies to my Apocalypse lance, Garuda hammer, and Typhon lance. Phoenix/Apoc reprint was so damn early it was still running with the original exchange rates (and was before I could reliably farm ult). Garuda/Typhon reprint happened while I was busy being a tourist in Japan so I couldn't max those weapons then.
This damn stack of 1800 half-elixirs ought to produce at least one of the drops I'm looking for.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

FLB is already here with that Advent and "nobody" will get it...
Yea ofc, just ditch free SSR fodder to level that FLB weapon faster.
Nice idea. Good Job!

Actually, considering the cost of the 2nd advent weapon, I'd be hard pressed to consider not going for the weapon...

Granted I haven't actually done the calculations, but my gut feeling tells me the SSR weapon isn't worth the HEs, not even for skill ups.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

No no, I need the drop to complete the first bow; it's only at 2*.

Same applies to my Apocalypse lance, Garuda hammer, and Typhon lance. Phoenix/Apoc reprint was so damn early it was still running with the original exchange rates (and was before I could reliably farm ult). Garuda/Typhon reprint happened while I was busy being a tourist in Japan so I couldn't max those weapons then.
This damn stack of 1800 half-elixirs ought to produce at least one of the drops I'm looking for.

Yikes, hope you get lucky.

How in the ever loving hell did you get 1.8k HEs tho?

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Also... yeah unfortunately. I haven't heard many good things about nutaku hosting games. Fingers crossed it'll at least sustain till the next year or so though.

KamiPro is popular, and more importantly, appears to be quite profitable judging from my survey. There's many incentives to spend and people do so liberally. As elemental advantage becomes an increasing focus we can expect SSR Kamihime Gatcha to increase in popularity. They're constantly coming up with new and innovative ways to part users with their money, such as Exclusive Gatcha.

A game's life expectancy can also be judged by the quality and timeliness of support provided. Major bugs are getting fixed quickly, often within a day of complaints. Towards end of life, support will diminish as cashflow dwindles and the company determines that those resources could be put to better use elsewhere.

Based on these indicators, I'd say the game has at least a year of life ahead of it, barring a major kerfuffle like DMM and Nutaku having a fall-out and Nutaku refusing to share their user database (so data could be migrated to new servers).

Originally Posted by nonsensei

The concept isn't about it being worth or not. With FLBs around if you see a fod, you take it. No questions asked. (That is, if you are actively SLing your grids to keep it up to date).

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oh dude...
What nonsensei said and have fun, because UE will give you 2x FLB weapons from now on, have fun to level those and your current ones.
You don't ask if it's worth you just take SSR fodder especially if it's a crap one.

In hindsight, "almost no one" is a pretty bad statement on my part, considering I up and forgot I myself said "SL2 SSR weapons alone could up SL29 to SL30".

That being said, I don't find maxing a 4LB weapon as tough as some would imagine. A sufficiently hardcore player currently (I define those as joining every ragna raid they see and clearing at least 4/6 of the elements every day) should be able to collect more than enough fodder for 1 or 2 skill ups per day, and that's notwithstanding the amount you get from events, especially raid events, where even the person who just clears the bare minimum could easily get 20-ish weapons out of the raid gacha.

A matter of patience in my eyes, but I do take back the statement on the SSR, one should definitely go for it.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

KamiPro is popular, and more importantly, appears to be quite profitable judging from my survey. There's many incentives to spend and people do so liberally. As elemental advantage becomes an increasing focus we can expect SSR Kamihime Gatcha to increase in popularity. They're constantly coming up with new and innovative ways to part users with their money, such as Exclusive Gatcha.

A game's life expectancy can also be judged by the quality and timeliness of support provided. Major bugs are getting fixed quickly, often within a day of complaints. Towards end of life, support will diminish as cashflow dwindles and the company determines that those resources could be put to better use elsewhere.

Based on these indicators, I'd say the game has at least a year of life ahead of it, barring a major kerfuffle like DMM and Nutaku having a fall-out and Nutaku refusing to share their user database (so data could be migrated to new servers).

That last part confuses me kinda, I don't deal with corporate issues all that well. How does migrating data to new servers affect the game, and how is the game affected if nutaku refuses to?