Thread: Guild Games Megathread

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

Metatron AW is the only unusual light advantage 'cos of the 4 mil burst cap, but it's hard to make good use of that unless you have a really strong grid.

Oh, is that a thing? Countdown zero increases burst cap to 4m?

Last I heard, Metatron's high bursts were a complete mystery and people had no idea how that stuff actually worked.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

Light has Take, Frey and Metatron. Tons of single turn spike damage within those three Himes.


Dejnov.

I doubt light is going to beat water mains this dummy.

Probably the current rank 1 didnt even do his best run for water yet.

Water has 2 Echo Burst Kamihimes (Lakshmi and Ea) and Siegfried with her ele atk relic. Furthermore they can use double Fenrir. Light sadly has 0 burst streak Eidos.
Water even has access to a lot of nukes too. (Lakshmi, Shiva, Oceanus)

Originally Posted by Alice

I doubt light is going to beat water mains this dummy.

Probably the current rank 1 didnt even do his best run for water yet.

Water has 2 Echo Burst Kamihimes (Lakshmi and Ea) and Siegfried with her ele atk relic. Furthermore they can use double Fenrir. Light sadly has 0 burst streak Eidos.
Water even has access to a lot of nukes too. (Lakshmi, Shiva, Oceanus)

I actually agree with you here. I've seen some of the crazy stuff that double Fenrir's can pull off and Light can't equal that for sure. Only saving grace is how many Water mains are there really? Thunder, Light, and Wind seem to be the main elements that people main. It has never been a popular element to main.


Dejnov.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Oh, is that a thing? Countdown zero increases burst cap to 4m?

Last I heard, Metatron's high bursts were a complete mystery and people had no idea how that stuff actually worked.

I'm not actually nearly strong enough to hit high enough numbers to confirm the following, but what I've been told is that countdown zero has two effects - 1. doubles the burst cap (so if you max out exceed, it's 2x 2 mil = 4 mil cap, at zero exceed it should be 2x 1 mil = 2 mil cap) 2. boosts the burst dmg multiplier, and that boost is outside of the normal 500% cap (I'm not sure what that multiplier actually is, but let's just say it's noticeable, lol.)

EDIT:
Actually, JP wiki suggests that the countdown zero multiplier is 450%. Given that AW himes' base burst multiplier is 5.5x, if you max out the 500% burst multiplier, Meta AW will hit 550%+500%+450% = 15x burst multiplier at countdown zero.

Originally Posted by Alice

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Water has 2 Echo Burst Kamihimes (Lakshmi and Ea) and Siegfried with her ele atk relic. Furthermore they can use double Fenrir.--

Is it actually possible to reach 2m Burst for all characters with double Fenrir?

For the whaliest of whales, one Rudra/Leviathan and Fenrir, sure. But double Fenrir... man that is low elemental modifier. Even more so with Sieg, so non-PF too?

Originally Posted by Dejnov

I actually agree with you here. I've seen some of the crazy stuff that double Fenrir's can pull off and Light can't equal that for sure. Only saving grace is how many Water mains are there really? Thunder, Light, and Wind seem to be the main elements that people main. It has never been a popular element to main.


Dejnov.

Probably only the current rank 1 Sora is the strongest water main in nutaku?
Though he already pulled off 32m with his fire too.

I think fire is also very popular.

Anyway maybe igt, Sirocco and Kayn can do "some crazy stuff" with double Fenrir too.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Is it actually possible to reach 2m Burst for all characters with double Fenrir?

For the whaliest of whales, one Rudra/Leviathan and Fenrir, sure. But double Fenrir... man that is low elemental modifier. Even more so with Sieg, so non-PF too?

For sure. Otherwise I dont see how the current rank 1 did 33.8m with water and 32.2m with fire.

Water run last year in DMM:
w.ww.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm34127760

Originally Posted by romoss

Thanks, can you show also the single tab?

Only 4th,ロキ previous dummy battle 13th person
He is now 1#on Fire




No idea how to increase image size

ps:well we non-super-whales can dream about this casual grid ( >ω<)

Originally Posted by ArchAngel

Only 4th,ロキ previous dummy battle 13th person
He is now 1#on Fire




No idea how to increase image size

ps:well we non-super-whales can dream about this casual grid ( >ω<)

thanks, I actually meant the single element dmg ranking.

Originally Posted by Chrestomancy

Yeah, you say that, but with the ability freeze, some abilities aren't back by turn 12 if I use them turn 1. I also need some way to soak the turn 9 hit, it's over 10k without some def up.

I think the plan here is to stun her before t9. So enrage in first three turns, t7 ability blocked by phase change, t8-9 stun for one turn, ability blocked by t10 phase change. If you stun even faster, the plan should be similar (maybe don't enrage her before first ougi), but all in all:

- Phase change is turn 4, 7 and 10.
- Phase change higher priority than ougi
- Remeber she goes back to 1 orb if ougi in enraged and to 0 orb if in normal

ps - I barely am able to land the turn 9 stun and ideally I would fire abilities past turn 4 when she has first debuff stack. But than I run into the same problem of abilities not being ready on time due to 3t skill recharge block. So for me this is about firing as much on T1 as I need to stun on T9.

i didn't realize it was solo turn event... jesus lord forget everythin i said.