Thread: How to use AW Betty (because apparently Gold Get use needs to be taught as well)

Edit: Wait, I just realize the guy in quote also sells his irons doesn't he? I didn't sell the irons I got from MB.
-Running PGate to get gold output right now.


Edit: Updated version of research.

While I don't have an awakened Betty, I have an Awakened Lyla. So I tried to use her for mysterious beast as mentioned by Eab1990.
I ended up with 4000~4200 gold a run.

To handle the air units, I had multiple hit squads of a Witch+Archer pair to hold the bottom portion of the screen to kill the gargoyles and red gargoyles. Once the gargoyles were dead, I withdrew the pair and allowed Lyla to keep wailing away.

Red wolves usually get through. When the slimes approach, I used Lyla's reckless abandon skill(or as ungracefully called, Risk Life III)

They other guy in quote claims 3600 a run with PGate.
Running it myself nets 2000~2100 gold a run.

Mysterious Beast is 20Charisma to PGate's 12Charisma
which means for PGate you get 175gold per Charisma.
Meanwhile Mysterious Beast gives 210gold per Charisma.

On raw gold gain, Mysterious Beast gets you 35 more gold.

Note: This excludes selling the irons you get, which could alter the result based on drop rates.

Originally Posted by Pyonification

Edit: Wait, I just realize the guy in quote also sells his irons doesn't he? I didn't sell the irons I got from MB.
-Running PGate to get gold output right now.


Edit: Updated version of research.

While I don't have an awakened Betty, I have an Awakened Lyla. So I tried to use her for mysterious beast as mentioned by Eab1990.
I ended up with 4000~4200 gold a run.

To handle the air units, I had multiple hit squads of a Witch+Archer pair to hold the bottom portion of the screen to kill the gargoyles and red gargoyles. Once the gargoyles were dead, I withdrew the pair and allowed Lyla to keep wailing away.

Red wolves usually get through. When the slimes approach, I used Lyla's reckless abandon skill(or as ungracefully called, Risk Life III)

They other guy in quote claims 3600 a run with PGate.
Running it myself nets 2000~2100 gold a run.

Mysterious Beast is 20Charisma to PGate's 12Charisma
which means for PGate you get 175gold per Charisma.
Meanwhile Mysterious Beast gives 210gold per Charisma.

On raw gold gain, Mysterious Beast gets you 35 more gold.

Note: This excludes selling the irons you get, which could alter the result based on drop rates.

hmm, thanks for the research. although I'm skeptical about your 2k gold per run in pastoral gate. I think that's due to using AW lyla instead of betty? exkale tried it out earlier, and with a prince buff (and some effort on skill timing on AW betty I think) he managed to kill all but 1 goblin.

edit: just some data to illustrate my point: using stats from aigis wikia, mysterious beast has 92 enemies and 1440 gold on 3*. pastoral gate has 45 enemies and 900 gold on 3*. using your numbers, you'll have to generate 2.5k gold from enemy kills in MB, and 1.1k gold on pastoral gate.
but I do agree with your point that MB is potentially another place to farm gold using Gold Get! ability. although I think pastoral gate should take half the time of MB, I can't confirm that anyway so I'll just leave it to readers to decide themselves.

That was an old video and it was messing around with fielded units to show why Betty needs levels before she can do anything of value.

Here is the one I recorded today:
44/45 https://youtu.be/Qg8HKctSyCI

Fair enough. Guess I'll run Pastoral to save me the headache.

... Getting slightly ahead of myself though, need to actually AW Betty first. Well, she'll come after Iris, anyway.

If you are completely F2P and are willing to commit, this is the best. (Kappa) I was reading the post seeing the amount of gold available, but then you said manually instead of Commission Sortie, and I just died lol.

Ok , so i got bored with this thread in which people only speculating , so decided to do some testing.


Did pastoral gate 3 times : first run : 1950 gold + 5 drops (4 irons , 1 bronze) = 3650 gold. Second 1650 + 3 irons drops = 2450. Third run : 2550 gold + 4 drops (1 bronze , 3 irons) = 3950 gold.

On Average , pastoral gate gave me 3350 gold. That is not very far from my initial calculation ( i used 3k gold as average). For my stamina that should give around 100-120k gold per a full fill if one is inclined on farming pastoral gate. That is not that bad , assuming u need the gold.



Now i tried other maps as well (single runs , so no averages here ) , and this are the results :

Mysterious beast : 4290 + 2 iron drops. = 4890 gold (this map has potential for a crapload of gold , depending on the RNG , because of the sheer amount of kills , but it's long and boring)

Royal road (22 cha map , 56 enemies , 1080 base gold) = 2970 + 4 drops . Drops lvl 9 fodder. Not the best , but it's usuable > if you want a bit of both (gold/unit xp)


Dragon hunting (37 cha , 3600 base gold) = 5100 gold + 3 drop (2 irons , 1 brozne) =6100. The drop rates on dragon hunting are rather meh , we all know that , but it drops lvl 18 fodder , it's easy to afk farm (just place betty right at the cave spawn point , and give her 1 healer , the prince and a high lvl archer/witch for the dragons). I will update as i find other maps.

The problem with drake hunting is that it's not that much better then doing IB for example (on which u get more drops , and comission sortie)

Glad to see this thread developing I decided to awaken my Betty after my Aria was done and leveled back up a bit and have been seeing how well she can farm gold.

I've been doing Return to Ruins 23 Chr for 1500k Base + roughly an extra 1500 from Gold Get. Was using the lvl 14 drops to level up units instead of selling. Works OK once Betty is leveled up enough to 2 shot red goblins (about lv50 with Aria's +2% and Prince bonus)

Figured I'd drop this here

As mentioned the max amount of Charisma on a daily cycle is 480 (20 per hour, 24 hours. Assuming you never stay full on Charisma) taking into consideration the amount of times you can run the maps you can run

Pastoral Gate - 40 times
Mysterious Beast - 20 times
The Royal Road (mentioned by lolix) - 21/22 times (21.8)
Dragon Hunting (also mentioned by lolix) - 12/13 times (12.9)

So you might want to calculate the average gold you could get based on that.

Originally Posted by Buster Wolf

Figured I'd drop this here

As mentioned the max amount of Charisma on a daily cycle is 480 (20 per hour, 24 hours. Assuming you never stay full on Charisma) taking into consideration the amount of times you can run the maps you can run

So you might want to calculate the average gold you could get based on that.

That does factor in to our thinking but we resolve that by dividing Average Gold Gain [(Base + G-Get)* Multipler + Unit Sell] by the stamina Chr used. X/12 , Y/37 , etc. Once that is calculated you will know which is more efficient irregardless of how many times you need/want to run it.

It will probably be found that Pastoral Gate is the most efficient for pure gold gain. The Jpn Wiki says this but I couldn't find any calculations to support that statement. What we will probably end up determining is which stage you should run to get a "Fairly High Gold Gain" With Useful XP Fodder Units.

E.g.
Pastoral Gate:
Charisma Cost = 12
Stage XP (/Chr) = 123 (10.25)
Base 3* Gold (/Chr) = 900 (75.00)
No. Units Betty Can kill [Av Gold Gain] (AvGG/Chr) = 43 out of 45 [at 10% = Average of +1200 Gold for 3*] (100.00)
No of Unit Drops 5
Soldier (Bow) [3] x2 EXP:50 (55 Same Class) Sell Value 300
Soldier (Unit) [3] x2 EXP:50 (55 Same Class) Sell Value 300
Royal Soldier Hector [3] x1 EXP:80 (88 Same Class) Sell Value 500
(Don't have drop rate %'s but they could be deduced fairly accurately from a large datapool.)

As soon as I reach lvl 192 (186 as of now) the Pastoral Gate farm will begin. Can also use Lyla as extra support.