Thread: How to use AW Betty (because apparently Gold Get use needs to be taught as well)

Ok , so i got bored with this thread in which people only speculating , so decided to do some testing.


Did pastoral gate 3 times : first run : 1950 gold + 5 drops (4 irons , 1 bronze) = 3650 gold. Second 1650 + 3 irons drops = 2450. Third run : 2550 gold + 4 drops (1 bronze , 3 irons) = 3950 gold.

On Average , pastoral gate gave me 3350 gold. That is not very far from my initial calculation ( i used 3k gold as average). For my stamina that should give around 100-120k gold per a full fill if one is inclined on farming pastoral gate. That is not that bad , assuming u need the gold.



Now i tried other maps as well (single runs , so no averages here ) , and this are the results :

Mysterious beast : 4290 + 2 iron drops. = 4890 gold (this map has potential for a crapload of gold , depending on the RNG , because of the sheer amount of kills , but it's long and boring)

Royal road (22 cha map , 56 enemies , 1080 base gold) = 2970 + 4 drops . Drops lvl 9 fodder. Not the best , but it's usuable > if you want a bit of both (gold/unit xp)


Dragon hunting (37 cha , 3600 base gold) = 5100 gold + 3 drop (2 irons , 1 brozne) =6100. The drop rates on dragon hunting are rather meh , we all know that , but it drops lvl 18 fodder , it's easy to afk farm (just place betty right at the cave spawn point , and give her 1 healer , the prince and a high lvl archer/witch for the dragons). I will update as i find other maps.

The problem with drake hunting is that it's not that much better then doing IB for example (on which u get more drops , and comission sortie)

Glad to see this thread developing I decided to awaken my Betty after my Aria was done and leveled back up a bit and have been seeing how well she can farm gold.

I've been doing Return to Ruins 23 Chr for 1500k Base + roughly an extra 1500 from Gold Get. Was using the lvl 14 drops to level up units instead of selling. Works OK once Betty is leveled up enough to 2 shot red goblins (about lv50 with Aria's +2% and Prince bonus)

Figured I'd drop this here

As mentioned the max amount of Charisma on a daily cycle is 480 (20 per hour, 24 hours. Assuming you never stay full on Charisma) taking into consideration the amount of times you can run the maps you can run

Pastoral Gate - 40 times
Mysterious Beast - 20 times
The Royal Road (mentioned by lolix) - 21/22 times (21.8)
Dragon Hunting (also mentioned by lolix) - 12/13 times (12.9)

So you might want to calculate the average gold you could get based on that.

Originally Posted by Buster Wolf

Figured I'd drop this here

As mentioned the max amount of Charisma on a daily cycle is 480 (20 per hour, 24 hours. Assuming you never stay full on Charisma) taking into consideration the amount of times you can run the maps you can run

So you might want to calculate the average gold you could get based on that.

That does factor in to our thinking but we resolve that by dividing Average Gold Gain [(Base + G-Get)* Multipler + Unit Sell] by the stamina Chr used. X/12 , Y/37 , etc. Once that is calculated you will know which is more efficient irregardless of how many times you need/want to run it.

It will probably be found that Pastoral Gate is the most efficient for pure gold gain. The Jpn Wiki says this but I couldn't find any calculations to support that statement. What we will probably end up determining is which stage you should run to get a "Fairly High Gold Gain" With Useful XP Fodder Units.

E.g.
Pastoral Gate:
Charisma Cost = 12
Stage XP (/Chr) = 123 (10.25)
Base 3* Gold (/Chr) = 900 (75.00)
No. Units Betty Can kill [Av Gold Gain] (AvGG/Chr) = 43 out of 45 [at 10% = Average of +1200 Gold for 3*] (100.00)
No of Unit Drops 5
Soldier (Bow) [3] x2 EXP:50 (55 Same Class) Sell Value 300
Soldier (Unit) [3] x2 EXP:50 (55 Same Class) Sell Value 300
Royal Soldier Hector [3] x1 EXP:80 (88 Same Class) Sell Value 500
(Don't have drop rate %'s but they could be deduced fairly accurately from a large datapool.)

As soon as I reach lvl 192 (186 as of now) the Pastoral Gate farm will begin. Can also use Lyla as extra support.

Originally Posted by Askeladd

As soon as I reach lvl 192 (186 as of now) the Pastoral Gate farm will begin. Can also use Lyla as extra support.

Yes, now if only some of us had the luck necessary to have more silver rogues for AW fodder :P

Originally Posted by Askeladd

As soon as I reach lvl 192 (186 as of now) the Pastoral Gate farm will begin. Can also use Lyla as extra support.

I want also a mincost Betty D:

Originally Posted by Overload

I want also a mincost Betty D:

sink in another 450 SCs next betty spotlight. likely to give you enough bettys to mincost her.

So I decided to look more into this since I saw someone wig out over an AW50 Lyla being used on Pastoral Gate instead of Mysterious Beast

Originally Posted by Buster Wolf

As mentioned the max amount of Charisma on a daily cycle is 480 (20 per hour, 24 hours. Assuming you never stay full on Charisma) taking into consideration the amount of times you can run the maps you can run

Pastoral Gate - 40 times
Mysterious Beast - 20 times
The Royal Road (mentioned by lolix) - 21/22 times (21.8)
Dragon Hunting (also mentioned by lolix) - 12/13 times (12.9)

The 3* gold for beating these maps are as followed

Pastoral Gate - 900
Mysterious Beast - 1,440
The Royal Road - 1,620
Dragon Hunting - 3,600

Multiplied by how many you would run on a daily cycle turns out to be

Pastoral Gate - 36,000 (900*40)
Mysterious Beast - 28,800 (1,440*20)
The Royal Road - 34,020/35,640 (1,620*21)/(1,620*22) depends on how many you run
Dragon Hunting - 43,200/46,800 (3,600*12)/(3,600*13) depends on how many you run

I then went to look at normal gameplay videos for these maps, assuming there have been no changes the number of enemies that appear will be shown while subtracting flying enemies (since we have no Gold Get character who attacks flying enemies)

Pastoral Gate - 45 - 0
Mysterious Beast - 92 - 11 = 81
The Royal Road - 56 - 8 = 48
Dragon Hunting - 46 - 2 = 44

Pastoral Gate is the only one I've seen a gameplay video of that shows the number of enemies killed with 1 Gold Get unit 44 so I have no data on how many grounded enemies in the other maps get killed for potential extra gold.

There's also adding the unit drops from the maps which are

Pastoral Gate - 4 Iron, 1 Bronze
Mysterious Beast - 3 Iron, 1 Bronze
The Royal Road - 4 Iron, 1 Bronze
Dragon Hunting - 3 Iron, 1 Bronze

I have not done any of these yet on my data collecting alt to get an idea of the drop rate (any help here would be nice to help find an actual average outside of what I'm going to put). The drop rates below are assuming average is getting half the total you would from a daily cycle worth of runs.

Pastoral Gate - 80 Iron, 20 Bronze (24,000 + 10,000 = 34,000)
Mysterious Beast - 36 Iron, 12 Bronze (10,800 + 6000 = 16,800)
The Royal Road - 43 Iron, 10 Bronze (12,900 + 5000 = 17,900)
Dragon Hunting - 18 Iron, 6 Bronze (5,400 + 3000 = 8,400)


Bringing the totals without Gold Get procs to
Pastoral Gate - 36,000 + 34,000 = 70,000
Mysterious Beast - 28,800 + 16,800 = 45,600
The Royal Road - 34,020 + 17,900 = 51,920 (53,540 on an extra run)
Dragon Hunting - 43,200 + 8,400 = 51,600 (55,200 on an extra run)

Originally Posted by Buster Wolf

So I decided to look more into this since I saw someone wig out over an AW50 Lyla being used on Pastoral Gate instead of Mysterious Beast


The 3* gold for beating these maps are as followed

Pastoral Gate - 900
Mysterious Beast - 1,440
The Royal Road - 1,620
Dragon Hunting - 3,600

Multiplied by how many you would run on a daily cycle turns out to be

Pastoral Gate - 36,000 (900*40)
Mysterious Beast - 28,800 (1,440*20)
The Royal Road - 34,020/35,640 (1,620*21)/(1,620*22) depends on how many you run
Dragon Hunting - 43,200/46,800 (3,600*12)/(3,600*13) depends on how many you run

I then went to look at normal gameplay videos for these maps, assuming there have been no changes the number of enemies that appear will be shown while subtracting flying enemies (since we have no Gold Get character who attacks flying enemies)

Pastoral Gate - 45 - 0
Mysterious Beast - 92 - 11 = 81
The Royal Road - 56 - 8 = 48
Dragon Hunting - 46 - 2 = 44

Pastoral Gate is the only one I've seen a gameplay video of that shows the number of enemies killed with 1 Gold Get unit 44 so I have no data on how many grounded enemies in the other maps get killed for potential extra gold.

There's also adding the unit drops from the maps which are

Pastoral Gate - 4 Iron, 1 Bronze
Mysterious Beast - 3 Iron, 1 Bronze
The Royal Road - 4 Iron, 1 Bronze
Dragon Hunting - 3 Iron, 1 Bronze

I have not done any of these yet on my data collecting alt to get an idea of the drop rate (any help here would be nice to help find an actual average outside of what I'm going to put). The drop rates below are assuming average is getting half the total you would from a daily cycle worth of runs.

Pastoral Gate - 80 Iron, 20 Bronze (24,000 + 10,000 = 34,000)
Mysterious Beast - 36 Iron, 12 Bronze (10,800 + 6000 = 16,800)
The Royal Road - 43 Iron, 10 Bronze (12,900 + 5000 = 17,900)
Dragon Hunting - 18 Iron, 6 Bronze (5,400 + 3000 = 8,400)


Bringing the totals without Gold Get procs to
Pastoral Gate - 36,000 + 34,000 = 70,000
Mysterious Beast - 34,560 + 16,800 = 51,360
The Royal Road - 34,020 + 17,900 = 51,920 (53,540 on an extra run)
Dragon Hunting - 43,200 + 8,400 = 51,600 (55,200 on an extra run)

So effectively tldr, Pastoral Gate is the better map to run with Gold Get units? Glorious! Now if only I could get Betty lved up to where her Attack is +600...