Thread: How to use AW Betty (because apparently Gold Get use needs to be taught as well)

Figured I'd drop this here

As mentioned the max amount of Charisma on a daily cycle is 480 (20 per hour, 24 hours. Assuming you never stay full on Charisma) taking into consideration the amount of times you can run the maps you can run

Pastoral Gate - 40 times
Mysterious Beast - 20 times
The Royal Road (mentioned by lolix) - 21/22 times (21.8)
Dragon Hunting (also mentioned by lolix) - 12/13 times (12.9)

So you might want to calculate the average gold you could get based on that.

Originally Posted by Buster Wolf

Figured I'd drop this here

As mentioned the max amount of Charisma on a daily cycle is 480 (20 per hour, 24 hours. Assuming you never stay full on Charisma) taking into consideration the amount of times you can run the maps you can run

So you might want to calculate the average gold you could get based on that.

That does factor in to our thinking but we resolve that by dividing Average Gold Gain [(Base + G-Get)* Multipler + Unit Sell] by the stamina Chr used. X/12 , Y/37 , etc. Once that is calculated you will know which is more efficient irregardless of how many times you need/want to run it.

It will probably be found that Pastoral Gate is the most efficient for pure gold gain. The Jpn Wiki says this but I couldn't find any calculations to support that statement. What we will probably end up determining is which stage you should run to get a "Fairly High Gold Gain" With Useful XP Fodder Units.

E.g.
Pastoral Gate:
Charisma Cost = 12
Stage XP (/Chr) = 123 (10.25)
Base 3* Gold (/Chr) = 900 (75.00)
No. Units Betty Can kill [Av Gold Gain] (AvGG/Chr) = 43 out of 45 [at 10% = Average of +1200 Gold for 3*] (100.00)
No of Unit Drops 5
Soldier (Bow) [3] x2 EXP:50 (55 Same Class) Sell Value 300
Soldier (Unit) [3] x2 EXP:50 (55 Same Class) Sell Value 300
Royal Soldier Hector [3] x1 EXP:80 (88 Same Class) Sell Value 500
(Don't have drop rate %'s but they could be deduced fairly accurately from a large datapool.)

As soon as I reach lvl 192 (186 as of now) the Pastoral Gate farm will begin. Can also use Lyla as extra support.

Originally Posted by Askeladd

As soon as I reach lvl 192 (186 as of now) the Pastoral Gate farm will begin. Can also use Lyla as extra support.

Yes, now if only some of us had the luck necessary to have more silver rogues for AW fodder :P

Originally Posted by Askeladd

As soon as I reach lvl 192 (186 as of now) the Pastoral Gate farm will begin. Can also use Lyla as extra support.

I want also a mincost Betty D:

Originally Posted by Overload

I want also a mincost Betty D:

sink in another 450 SCs next betty spotlight. likely to give you enough bettys to mincost her.

Originally Posted by soranokira

sink in another 450 SCs next betty spotlight. likely to give you enough bettys to mincost her.

Always these ridicululous ideas from soran, it'll take only 25 sc. I'm at least blessed by the luck goddess Tenhou

I actually had ridiculous luck with Betty. Had 5 spares of her (seems she loves me) and that resulted in max CR, 4/5 skill. One spirit of Rainbow aaaand... it's done!

Then there's Lyla, who required 6 rainbows to go from Skill level 3 to 4...

So I decided to look more into this since I saw someone wig out over an AW50 Lyla being used on Pastoral Gate instead of Mysterious Beast

Originally Posted by Buster Wolf

As mentioned the max amount of Charisma on a daily cycle is 480 (20 per hour, 24 hours. Assuming you never stay full on Charisma) taking into consideration the amount of times you can run the maps you can run

Pastoral Gate - 40 times
Mysterious Beast - 20 times
The Royal Road (mentioned by lolix) - 21/22 times (21.8)
Dragon Hunting (also mentioned by lolix) - 12/13 times (12.9)

The 3* gold for beating these maps are as followed

Pastoral Gate - 900
Mysterious Beast - 1,440
The Royal Road - 1,620
Dragon Hunting - 3,600

Multiplied by how many you would run on a daily cycle turns out to be

Pastoral Gate - 36,000 (900*40)
Mysterious Beast - 28,800 (1,440*20)
The Royal Road - 34,020/35,640 (1,620*21)/(1,620*22) depends on how many you run
Dragon Hunting - 43,200/46,800 (3,600*12)/(3,600*13) depends on how many you run

I then went to look at normal gameplay videos for these maps, assuming there have been no changes the number of enemies that appear will be shown while subtracting flying enemies (since we have no Gold Get character who attacks flying enemies)

Pastoral Gate - 45 - 0
Mysterious Beast - 92 - 11 = 81
The Royal Road - 56 - 8 = 48
Dragon Hunting - 46 - 2 = 44

Pastoral Gate is the only one I've seen a gameplay video of that shows the number of enemies killed with 1 Gold Get unit 44 so I have no data on how many grounded enemies in the other maps get killed for potential extra gold.

There's also adding the unit drops from the maps which are

Pastoral Gate - 4 Iron, 1 Bronze
Mysterious Beast - 3 Iron, 1 Bronze
The Royal Road - 4 Iron, 1 Bronze
Dragon Hunting - 3 Iron, 1 Bronze

I have not done any of these yet on my data collecting alt to get an idea of the drop rate (any help here would be nice to help find an actual average outside of what I'm going to put). The drop rates below are assuming average is getting half the total you would from a daily cycle worth of runs.

Pastoral Gate - 80 Iron, 20 Bronze (24,000 + 10,000 = 34,000)
Mysterious Beast - 36 Iron, 12 Bronze (10,800 + 6000 = 16,800)
The Royal Road - 43 Iron, 10 Bronze (12,900 + 5000 = 17,900)
Dragon Hunting - 18 Iron, 6 Bronze (5,400 + 3000 = 8,400)


Bringing the totals without Gold Get procs to
Pastoral Gate - 36,000 + 34,000 = 70,000
Mysterious Beast - 28,800 + 16,800 = 45,600
The Royal Road - 34,020 + 17,900 = 51,920 (53,540 on an extra run)
Dragon Hunting - 43,200 + 8,400 = 51,600 (55,200 on an extra run)

Originally Posted by Buster Wolf

So I decided to look more into this since I saw someone wig out over an AW50 Lyla being used on Pastoral Gate instead of Mysterious Beast


The 3* gold for beating these maps are as followed

Pastoral Gate - 900
Mysterious Beast - 1,440
The Royal Road - 1,620
Dragon Hunting - 3,600

Multiplied by how many you would run on a daily cycle turns out to be

Pastoral Gate - 36,000 (900*40)
Mysterious Beast - 28,800 (1,440*20)
The Royal Road - 34,020/35,640 (1,620*21)/(1,620*22) depends on how many you run
Dragon Hunting - 43,200/46,800 (3,600*12)/(3,600*13) depends on how many you run

I then went to look at normal gameplay videos for these maps, assuming there have been no changes the number of enemies that appear will be shown while subtracting flying enemies (since we have no Gold Get character who attacks flying enemies)

Pastoral Gate - 45 - 0
Mysterious Beast - 92 - 11 = 81
The Royal Road - 56 - 8 = 48
Dragon Hunting - 46 - 2 = 44

Pastoral Gate is the only one I've seen a gameplay video of that shows the number of enemies killed with 1 Gold Get unit 44 so I have no data on how many grounded enemies in the other maps get killed for potential extra gold.

There's also adding the unit drops from the maps which are

Pastoral Gate - 4 Iron, 1 Bronze
Mysterious Beast - 3 Iron, 1 Bronze
The Royal Road - 4 Iron, 1 Bronze
Dragon Hunting - 3 Iron, 1 Bronze

I have not done any of these yet on my data collecting alt to get an idea of the drop rate (any help here would be nice to help find an actual average outside of what I'm going to put). The drop rates below are assuming average is getting half the total you would from a daily cycle worth of runs.

Pastoral Gate - 80 Iron, 20 Bronze (24,000 + 10,000 = 34,000)
Mysterious Beast - 36 Iron, 12 Bronze (10,800 + 6000 = 16,800)
The Royal Road - 43 Iron, 10 Bronze (12,900 + 5000 = 17,900)
Dragon Hunting - 18 Iron, 6 Bronze (5,400 + 3000 = 8,400)


Bringing the totals without Gold Get procs to
Pastoral Gate - 36,000 + 34,000 = 70,000
Mysterious Beast - 34,560 + 16,800 = 51,360
The Royal Road - 34,020 + 17,900 = 51,920 (53,540 on an extra run)
Dragon Hunting - 43,200 + 8,400 = 51,600 (55,200 on an extra run)

So effectively tldr, Pastoral Gate is the better map to run with Gold Get units? Glorious! Now if only I could get Betty lved up to where her Attack is +600...