Thread: Advice and Suggestion Needed

Originally Posted by Lixigen

Well for exp fodder seems not giving much exp for shiho and I already max CR/SU my main Shiho. So maybe I will save it for Rainbow Crystal later.

DMM Side:
Oh so battle mage can be used as tank too maybe then I will try to upgrade her and her aff increase hp and def quite good for tank.
So Ranger is useless, then I will stick at archers for my physical ranged. About Druid, maybe better to search some videos to how to use her. Cause I also a bit confused how to use her when the tree of life token taken 1 slot unit and exchange it for healer with range lower than healer which makes me a bit confused how to use it. On the bright side, then I will also upgrade bandit and yuyu then for main team.

Thank you for the advice lolix and soranokira

just to justify my claims that the gold ranger fuuka is useless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Yg7fBT6v4
in that video, bashira (and any archer) can reach the tiger that elaine is hitting (260 range), while fuuka can't (240 range). her max damage is around 430 base with double shot skill. one of my dmm accounts don't have bashira, so I'm forced to use her and spica. her traps are sometimes useful in making up for the lack of range and damage she has, but more often than not I wish I had level'd daniela before instead. also fuuka can't even 2shot gazers (the floating eye monster in crystal daily) w/o prince buff when I put a thief (adds 20% hp and attack to monsters) in team.

well, Fuuka or ranger in general is pretty situational, calling them useless is a bit too far though
their main use are for map with blizzard/fog gimmick, where all unit get range reduced (and attack reduced at blizzard if i remember correctly) that might be troublesome especially if you dont have feng sui user. The last time i see map with blizzard is at gold rush anniversary though, so its better to raise normal archer in the end.
The other time ranger is used is when there is a boss monster that need to be stalled with trap, like that majin fur fur true form or shuuten douji from gold rush(the only time i bring Ricola to sortie lol).

the druid is useless, dont even bother raise her. Her token might be useful when you reach eastern country story maps though, there is flying enemy that throw spear at your unit, most range unit will die instantly. so you should keep her at least untill you get another character that can summon token.

the silver bowrider is pretty worth, though you should prioritize your core unit first.

I have not used Fuuka yet, so take this with a grain of salt, but I'm surprised you consider her useless. Her base attack is on par with gold archers and her double shot is decent. She trades a bit of range and damage against flying enemies for utility with her traps. Doesn't seem bad at all for a gold unit and certainly not useless to me. Someone I know who's a DMM veteran considers her a strong gold unit.

Originally Posted by n00b

I have not used Fuuka yet, so take this with a grain of salt, but I'm surprised you consider her useless. Her base attack is on par with gold archers and her double shot is decent. She trades a bit of range and damage against flying enemies for utility with her traps. Doesn't seem bad at all for a gold unit and certainly not useless to me. Someone I know who's a DMM veteran considers her a strong gold unit.

I have used her. under virtually every circumstance for the past 3 months I'm better off using spica + bashira. she's only good if you dont have bashira. and even then under most situations I'd rather deploy spica or soma (because I didnt level/aff my daniela after CC). also, traps are nice and all, but you can pretty much do the same with necromancer tokens, which apparently are arguably better. she's simply too niche, and cannot completely replace bashira in videos and her cost is much higher than daniela.

seorizuki has a fair point, but even then most of the time you can just use an archer and manage somehow because snowstorm isn't forever.

You're comparing a gold unit to two plat units which are great even by premium plat unit standards. Also, not everyone has a necromancer (OP for example doesn't). Even if you do, having a fairly cheap unit that deals comparable DPS to a gold archer with tokens would still open up more tactical possibilities. I'm not saying she's a priority to level especially when you have Bashira (a unit that will most likely be the MVP for a new player for quite some time unless they get a strong black), but I don't see how she's useless either.

Originally Posted by n00b

You're comparing a gold unit to two plat units which are great even by premium plat unit standards. Also, not everyone has a necromancer (OP for example doesn't). Even if you do, having a cheap unit that deals comparable DPS to a gold archer with tokens would still open up more tactical possibilities. I'm not saying she's a priority to level especially when you have Bashira (a unit that will most likely be the MVP for a new player for quite some time unless they get a strong black), but I don't see how she's useless either.

Gold Ranger - useless. especially for one who has bashira. even daniela is arguably better than her. traps are nice but her damage isn't fantastic and gets worse thanks to lack of range and anti-air bonus as compared to archers.

I meant what I said. that is all. fuuka would literally be useless for OP if he chooses to level fuuka and use her instead of spica thinking fuuka can replace spica because someone said she isn't useless.
up until now, Fuuka has ALWAYS been substandard for me. if bashira is a poor man's nanaly, fuuka's a poor man's bashira (and even poorer than stray). if you're not gonna use a unit, she is literally useless. just like the gold druid based on seorizuki.

Well, pretty much I just wanted to know how to use Ranger and Druid alone. But of course I know that pretty much his/her own use and sometimes situational which means not really used much and literally not needed. On that side for token, if our token unit like tree of life not trap get killed, does it count as allied unit dead?

Originally Posted by soranokira

I meant what I said. that is all. fuuka would literally be useless for OP if he chooses to level fuuka and use her instead of spica thinking fuuka can replace spica because someone said she isn't useless.
up until now, Fuuka has ALWAYS been substandard for me. if bashira is a poor man's nanaly, fuuka's a poor man's bashira (and even poorer than stray).

No one said she can replace Spica, and that would be a tall order for any gold (or even plat) unit. Anyway, I already addressed your initial points that you quoted.
As for Stray, he has lower attack and no traps. Maybe I'm underestimating the impact of 20 range, but I would level Fuuka over Stray no questions asked.

Originally Posted by soranokira

if you're not gonna use a unit, she is literally useless.

Even if there are stronger units or a unit is not a priority to level, she can still come in handy at some point. I will probably level my Fuuka later on for her utility. If I had gotten her earlier I might've leveled her alongside Bashira instead of a silver archer.

Originally Posted by Lixigen

does it count as allied unit dead?

No.