Thread: plat units = to blacks

Oh sorry..my bad..

yes, I am basing my judgment from DMM data, and many of them are rather subjective and borderline failing to meet the mark. units like thetis only barely make it due to relatively high stats, immunity to status and not needing to sacrifice her def. (also yes, she loses to clissa. but you see, we're saying which plats either almost match up to blacks or overtake completely here. I'd say it's fair to put thetis up near the almost-match-up part)
spica obviously doesnt match up to nanaly's x5 shot in 5s (or 4shots in 1s), but disregarding skill timers, spica has good attack speed, with the option of further boosting her attack/range or changing it to magical entirely. Victoria's slower attack speed just can't match up in this regard.

Uzume is rejected in my list because matsuri is outright better in virtually every way (except the lack of 5% attack to ranged units) from what I can tell. (and I mean lol I almost can't do shit with Uzume aside from planting her somewhere for atk buff and attack boost skill. Matsuri has ranged skill attack. just...nope.)

chydis has the raw healing power to match blacks, while saria is actually better than her thanks to increased healing speed + multiple heals. I was tempted to throw in Marle as well but...her AW skill isn't fantastic, so I can't say shit yet until we get a black feng shui to compare.

Elizabeth is...just brutal.

Anelia is another one...just brutal. Rachel excels in another manner: she has Aisha range, that is all.

Lilia has the brutal duelist power that just about none other can match. sherry has nice ranged multi-target damage, but I feel Olivie can do it better in terms of raw dps. but Lilia can match up to Olivie solely due to her anti-magic enemy capabilities. (if olivie had like 50% more hp, I'd throw lilia out of this list as well)

Sabine...true damage vs Ingrid's MR reduction. barely enough but I'd say she passes in that.

Raven has no black to compare to, but she's outright broken anyway so she deserves to make it here. Same goes for Nadia. ask exk for details regarding nadia.
Marius has both high attack and toggle ability, so I'll just throw him there as a pretty good bishop. He doesn't have Eterna's double cast, but I'd say he suffices.
Serra's another one with no black to challenge, but I saw her skill so...I'd say she does her job pretty damn well. for an event unit nonetheless.

edit: solano is also out of my list due to Farune pretty much doing what she can. and more. but...well, I have no idea really. at this point I havent judged for myself the difference between the 2 so yeah...
I find nothing fantastic about Camilla which seems like a powered up Iris. if she makes it under comparable to black I might as well throw every plat healer in. Chydis simply has the raw healing power outside of skill, but she kinda barely makes it as well. Saria still takes top spot.
Echidna is...nothing solid can be concluded of the dragon shaman class as it is, honestly.
Beatrice can NEVER beat rachel. NEVER. period. after considering Rachel's skill AW, it's just insane to put the 2 together.

I'd put Solano on the list, tbh, if only because Farune is so underperforming otherwise. But yeah, it's more of a testament that summoners are already good as a mincost event plat, rather than the plat itself being as good as a black.

And while we're including other event units, Shiho and Rika excel at their jobs, even if they don't have black-tier equivalents (on our end, anyway).

I'd add Sherry and Shizuka to the list.

Nadia?



She is a boss. She is far better than most Black units due to a combination of things she can do, despite her very high cost. Nadia being a boss is the best way to describe her, since she is going to be the one carrying your team because she's pulling a lot of weight.

Nadia with her Skill AW has:

• Very high raw stats
• A permanently activated skill unless she becomes paralyzed
• Extremely high stats after skill activation (1.5x ATK/DEF)
• Attacks all grounded enemies within her range

Nadia does so many things despite her cost. Cost is not even an issue at all and people will complain about her cost just because they are dumb as hell. She should not be compared to a Bandit at all. She is far better than a Bandit in terms of performance. For 40 cost, you get a unit that deals a lot of damage and has a large amount of defense on top of it. There are only a select few enemies that she can not kill fast, which are variations of the high-tier golems (Maid, Axe Maid, Iron, and Mithril) and some bosses. She can tank all of them as well with proper support because of her high HP and DEF. Everything else? She'll chew through them because she'll be rocking 2k+ attack. Enemies still getting through? Place a blocker behind her just because she'll tear them apart for trying to get away.

Yeah, her cost is high and there is some time before her skill activates, but that is a minor thing in exchange for power. I will use any means possible to deploy her sooner. If her cost was 60, I would even deploy 3 Soldiers just to use her because she is worth that cost.





Other Platinum units can only look in shame. Even Black units like Deine can only look in shame at the sheer power of Nadia. This post of mine barely touches upon the ridiculousness of Nadia. There has been ongoing discussion in other places talking about how overpowered she is. Bandits, Samurais, and Angels look tame by comparison.

gellius looks at your nadia and deosn't give a flying fuck about her. He's the only tank in the game that can facetank high tier bosses. If there is 1 unit that can be considered by far the best in his role in the game , it's gellius and its not even close

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What is your point? I didn't say she is the best tank ever.

I also have a max level Jelius and I know what he does.

anyway yeah a perfect (minus fucking unit cost) elizabeth is basically free loot on acquired target

stuff just basically hands her the loot and dies

I swear to god - it occasionally gives you the loot before the mob is even dead

it's literally vayne with devourer and an edgeforce executioner bloodthirster and zephyr

she wont die, nothing will live - loot always lol

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and yes it's me what are you fucking retarded?

wait don't answer that xD

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i vote that they need a space map

and when they do treasure island the quest for black units -

the token space map is a black bounty hunter named Boobies Fatt or something and it's girl Boba