well the problem with her dps is again , that it's situational as well. She needs another blocker besides her to stall the enemies. Combine that with her initial high cost and we have the issues of taking too long to have a good strategy for most maps. That doesn't mean that nadia isn't a very very powefull unit. She is downright broken in the right conditions , but i wouldn't call her the best either.
I guess in the end it falls down to prefferences , but i personaly don't like units that cost that much to deploy. With her cost i could deploy both gelius and solano for example
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I don't exactly see the problem with her cost. Most of the time you will deploy a soldier and anticipate more heavy forces down the line when you have set up a decent team. If you need to quickly deal with enemies you'd deploy archers regardless. Heavy Armours cost a decent amount overall too so waiting some extra time to deploy Nadia instead is fully plausible.
And as others have stated in many cases she won't need a blocker since she will outright murder anything that gets into her range. To give you a similar example - would you be deploying gellius because you are worried Spica will let those purple goblins that she 1-2 shots through? You'd most likely just place her and giggle at the goblins getting slaughtered. Nadia works the same way but for tougher enemies.
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Yeah, the cost gap shouldn't be an issue when both of their costs are expensive as it is. If you need to intercept something and only have enough UP for a heavy, 99% of the time, you're better off using a soldier (or a valkyrie on DMM, I guess) and an archer instead.
Deploying Gellius and ONLY Gellius for a rush is just setting yourself up for trouble. Gellius/Solano also doesn't outweigh Nadia because of the extra 10 seconds of setup. Unless you put Solano first, in which case, you're still not solving the main problem of actually getting a blocker on the map and you may as well just use a soldier then.
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Dont hit me if i want breaks more :c cuz most of my units needs leveling (well plat ones at least) And got so much free time to read all the stuff here, you guys speak the same thing at least 5-6 times over and over, we dont even have nadia, could you please compare nutaku only units despite we'll getting nadia anyway? And in my opinion, if given the choice i'd choose gellius for ultimate end-game bosses cuz i've seen this. Even gellius alone cant do much things, he needed dancer buff and he could do the map without that dragon rider, would took longer but its 3* in the end anyway and all the endgame content i've seen there was always a gellius not a dragon rider.
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Good point. Comparing to stuff we don't have (and no idea when we'll ever have) is silly.
Originally Posted by ramazan
On another note maybe its time the forum here had a sub-forum for DMM Aigis talk? If a new player stepped into the wrong conversation here it could get awfully confusing. Plus we could also have stickies that pertain to DMM with stuff like logging in from international locations.
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Nadia splash + unit that blocks is far cheaper than three + mages and Gellius and will get similar results. Nadia will have over 2k attack with AWS and attacks at a speed less than 40 frames versus mage's 98.She needs another blocker besides her to stall the enemies.
summed up: she will frequently out-dps THREE mages. that's just ridiculous.
#1 - lol, breaks. no one on Nutaku except you wants to hear about aigis breaks. Originally Posted by ramazan
#2 - there's no rule that requires us to talk about only Nutaku units, so we will likely continue talking about DMM. the list I posted earlier also includes a number of units that have already appeared on Nutaku.
#3 - gellius doesn't need a dancer to do what he does...?
#4 - nadia(and even dragon riders as a class) are much newer than gellius and will as such appear in far fewer videos.
you high, bro?anyway yeah a perfect (minus fucking unit cost) elizabeth is basically free loot on acquired target
stuff just basically hands her the loot and dies
I swear to god - it occasionally gives you the loot before the mob is even dead
it's literally vayne with devourer and an edgeforce executioner bloodthirster and zephyr
she wont die, nothing will live - loot always lol
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and yes it's me what are you fucking retarded?
wait don't answer that xD
Nutaku players should probably be interested in the opinions of DMM players on units because it gives a strong indication of what is best to invest in. Presently the most effecting thing on a unit's worth is their awakening skill, which haven't appeared on Nutaku yet.Good point. Comparing to stuff we don't have (and no idea when we'll ever have) is silly.
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It looks like a FarK post. Originally Posted by Karsuman
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first of all , you are exagerating. At best she replaces 2 mages. For example awakened odette does around 700 without prince buff.It should go around 850-900 with it , without any other team multipliers (like uzume/aria/etc). Considering the one in the image was doing 2250 at max lvl with probably the best prince title possible , that means she can replace 2 odettes. That is insane dps i agree , but then again , u don't need to use mages. You could easily place a solano , which also has great dps and true damage. The more resistance the enemies have , the better solano becomes.
Meanwhile gellius doesn't care what resistance his enemies have....nor what they attack him with seeing as he gains a bunch of mr alongside his huge hp pool and great defense.
Bottom line : gellius is good vs all forms of attackers. Nadia's offense is again situational , depending on the enemies resistances.
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Gellius + Solano isn't a point in Gellius' favor vs. Nadia. If anything, it's a point in Solano's favor vs. Nadia.
It amazes me how dense you continue to be.
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