Thread: The Princess, The Bandits, and The Capital of Evil Spirits Guide

People need to chill. I've disagreed with lolix on many occasions and even I think this current tangent is hardly worth an argument. In the context of being a direct response to what Ramazan said I don't even think that lolix's comment was particularly unreasonable. We're essentially flipping out because someone made a qualified objection to a post that equated "Unworthy" with "Useless." That's not an insane distinction to be talking about since saying Saki is a useful but expensive luxury pick is quite a bit different from saying she is outright useless. Ya'll got off-the-cuff statements on both sides and there's no need to get salty over it.

the thing is , i don't even have a dislike for ninjas. I actually like more diverse roles for melee slots. The issues with them (and especially saki > on which I DO have a dislike) is that she costs a lot to deploy and she costs a lot to aquire. Once deployed , she is good statwise , but not worth the DCs in my opinion. As soroano said , you can even use a fencer even if it has less dps (well , she can act like a secondary duelist/pseudoprincess for a while for stronger bosses , which is better IMO then a dodge tank) , what's the point of using so many DCs for saki ? I mean , if ninjas were a bit cheaper to deploy , saki might be quite better


Yes , as kayfabe said , she's a luxury pick , and as eab said , she is not dowright useless. That being said , nobody can deny that she can be replaced on most maps , and it's not really a priority for most of us.

this is why dmm players don't like to read nutaku players discussion and comments. lack of research and shortsightedness.

Originally Posted by soranokira

this is why dmm players don't like to read nutaku players discussion and comments. lack of research and shortsightedness.

Issue being that we're talking about curent our units. Even dmm can't speculate about what new balance patches they will get or how their units will change. As we all know , hindsight is 20/20.


The problem with nutaku tho , is that balance changes and new upgrades that are avaible to dmm don't happen as often here , so it might take a while till we get them. What does that mean ? It means that making an investment without knowing when it will make a profit is generally not a great ideea.



That being said , is DMM saki a groundbreaking unit that's worth more then awakening your core team ? Doubt it . Even there , she's a luxury pick , and i'm guessing she's even less of a priority seeing as they actually rotate the trading post , and there will always be stuff to buy , better then her (spica, chydys being just 2 examples of units we had that are a higher priority then her)

you do realize you shot yourself in the foot when you said the cost is an issue when saki gets -4 cost atm from AW as it is atm? and that I was being really sarcastic when I said you practically assumed everybody can get a magic fencer to replace ninjas? getting a decent ranged melee IS a priority (see G-tier this event, the QQ when solano event came before charlotte's and that 1 map with only 3 ranged slots almost forcing the necessity for a ranged melee) if you do not already have one, and therefore saki is NOT useless. (because you assumed everybody joined before 2016 and therefore has ranged melees to replace saki with.)

for the record, if you're gonna bring in ricardo, dude seriously sucks big time. you'd get more out of getting a saki than getting him and leveling him up. tried and tested.

I might as well point out that with the current shitty silver drop rates nutaku has atm and the slow pace of events, you'd get extra DCs to buy both spica and saki instead of AW'ing every core unit you are able to. with events as slow as it is, you're better off getting a ranged melee to cover more grounds and letting yourself be better prepared for future events. especially when AW units are NOT a necessity to clearing most of the events, simply making them easier. and that goes even for current DMM G-tier events: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmi49WuOnhk

edit: also, I wouldnt really say cost is an issue when it comes to ninjas. my saki cost 23, azami cost 18 in the 100/2 G tier, and I used her with no issues. 5 cost gap and still deployable. and they're just going to get cheaper.

even with the -4 cost , saki is a 19 deploy cost. That' still not cheap. And you actually need to have an awakened saki for that in the first place , which is a issue.


That being said , if u guys like her , feel free to use her. I for 1 had no problem 3starring most events without her , and all i was wsaying is that she is not a priority over awakening core or aquiring priority stuff (like spica) in the first place. If u have extra dcs , you might as well get it and awaken her


Edit : @kayfabe , i said that she is good statwise once deployed , didn't i ?

Originally Posted by lolix

Once deployed , she is good statwise , but not worth the DCs in my opinion.

I wouldn't go that far. She's expensive and I'm a strong advocate of at least getting your primary tanking setup operational before grabbing her but she's actually pretty nasty once you factor in her attack speed. Basically, I don't think she's a unit that she should be skipped but I also don't think that she's such a priority unit that the current levels of smack talk going on are really warranted.