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  1. #21
    what tenhou said was basically why I said to get saki:

    http://harem-battle.club/millennium-...html#post28226
    I might as well point out that with the current shitty silver drop rates nutaku has atm and the slow pace of events, you'd get extra DCs to buy both spica and saki instead of AW'ing every core unit you are able to. with events as slow as it is, you're better off getting a ranged melee to cover more grounds and letting yourself be better prepared for future events. especially when AW units are NOT a necessity to clearing most of the events, simply making them easier.


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    There's really not much up for debate. I just like to bully lolix on his bad opinions. :P

    No need to repeat the arguments for Spica and whatnot, though I will say that AW Bashira isn't as bad as people make out to be. Targeting ranged units first can be a lifesaver in protecting your own ranged units, assuming you didn't have a melee blocker to spare and redirect their attacks. Victoria's AW ability of prioritizing magic definitely seems niche though, since she would still ignore the more dangerous enemies like black goblin archers.

    I'm not sure what the point of Viera is either. At least Cypria's super niche role of cheesing early black armors or mummies in story maps makes sense, and Iris' usefulness needs no explanation. But Viera, from what I hear, is a worse Marie, who's already a niche unit and needs AW to be semi-useful. But the point stands that sailors are not ninja replacements. Their actual ranged ability is on a timer and their DPS is different. They're more akin to reverse-angels, except they can't even lightning rod all that well and are subpar duelists in comparison to the likes of Rika, so...

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    Your notion of bullying relies getting stuck on 1 bad word , and ignore the rest of the post even tho it was a very valid argumentation that most people generally agreed on.


    But i'm tired of this , and i'll just let you stroke your ego

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    At ZeroZet, I did not know that about Feng Shuists. That seems pretty big with the increased power of the drain on X and G maps. I think two AW archers are required for Crystal G but now I'm not so sure two non-AW healers would be able to keep up without Feng Shui. AW Iris will need 4 silver healers anyway, but I'm sure they will be farmable from an event soon enough. I'll just have to reevaluate what I need more in about 350 crystals when I have my AW Spica and have the option buy another spirit or save for Saki depending on what we get from events until then.

    At sylrr, I like your adaptation. The best thing you can do is understand the merits of every unit and make the best choice given your circumstances from Shrine. I'm just having a little trouble on the understanding the units part myself. About the Archer EX map, do you not have Leeanne and Bernard available? I have multiple Leeanne from map completion and one Bernard but it's possible he came from Shrine early on and I didn't realize. I see you mentioned Bernice also so I'm not sure how you lack a second tank. Here's the guide I used, base units. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CiEjozeUzU A lot are reduced and prob max aff as well but the deployments weren't so tight that I couldn't just adapt to the units I did have.

    At lolix, again this is why I started this thread. Despite the flare, we all seemed very close in our estimations but one word choice seemed to set things off.

  5. Because of how we go event -> break -> repeat freemium players will quickly run out of silvers for awakening material (I'm on this boat now ;_; ). It's always nice to have more units for more variety and free players only have the choice of Ricardo (who's not too good) and Saki for ranged melee units unless you spent crystals or were lucky to get Sabinne or Hina from 2K gatcha (you can get plats from this, it's how I got Lyla).

    Personally I wouldn't worry about trying Crystal Keeper G unless you have 2 Artillery Officers (Percis, Zola) for the last wave of eyes since it will be a long while before we get Swordmaster Sandra.

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    At sylrr, I like your adaptation. The best thing you can do is understand the merits of every unit and make the best choice given your circumstances from Shrine. I'm just having a little trouble on the understanding the units part myself. About the Archer EX map, do you not have Leeanne and Bernard available? I have multiple Leeanne from map completion and one Bernard but it's possible he came from Shrine early on and I didn't realize. I see you mentioned Bernice also so I'm not sure how you lack a second tank. Here's the guide I used, base units. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CiEjozeUzU A lot are reduced and prob max aff as well but the deployments weren't so tight that I couldn't just adapt to the units I did have.
    I have Bernice at 50CC60 and Leeann at 50. I am waiting on picking up another HA to CC Leeanne. As is she doesn't cut it on that map. Its a case of not getting certain units and getting others instead so I have to improvise. I run 2 Princesses in my main team (Themis L60 and Claudia L70) but sometimes another HA is better.

    I have had good luck in other ways though. I have Julian, Adele, Elizabeth and Sophia. I guess I could try Sophia as that second tank but her very short lifespan for stopping stuff makes me a bit iffy about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soranokira View Post
    I personally feel there is no need to rush crystal keeper G since it's pretty tough and you really need more than just 2 AW archers for that map. also, nagi is the only potential ranged melee that we should get within the next couple of months, but even then having saki is good because nagi and saki fulfill slightly different roles (saki more for wave clear and nagi more for slightly armored units). and that's assuming you don't get fucked over by not having a ranged melee during the events up till nagi's event.
    Wait, what u mean by last sentence?

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    he means that he believes that untill nagi's event it's a high probability of getting fucked by not having a ranged on melee. That much is obvious. To be honest , untill this day (started playing during odettes event) , there were like....3 events that actually required a ninja ,to be made easier , and those were : solano's , lynn and pretty much this one for the 100/2 , and i would argue that i've 3starred lynn's(which had a map with literally no ranged slot) and got a perfect unit in solano's without having a need of saki. And during lynn's we didn't even had another ranged melee option other then saki , because as i remember it , the 2 fencers events came after hers

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    So, should i level viera then as i have no ninja or something in my team? I'll get saki soon though but not less than 3-4 weeks. I'll level viera on my alt anyway so im asking for my main.

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    From the general look. No you probably shouldn't lvl vierva she isn't a replacement for a ninja. And I doubt we will have an event in the next month that you will need a ninja to 100% do

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