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    I started this account in February. I bought Cyrus first as I had a gaping hole in my mage stocks. I am still relying on Cyrus and Valerie now so it was a good investment. If you have a hole and DC spending can fill it I think its worth it as a free player as there are no guarantees you will get anything better soon. Chances to get anything better are rare at best unless you spend some money.

    Next I bought Spica. I currently have her at 50CC70 at +1 skill and she is well worth it, even if you have other archers like Shao. I want to make Spica a perfect awakened unit so I will likely go for an Awakening Fairy or two next, then another Spica for that guaranteed -1CR.

    Saki isn't even on my radar as I got lucky early on and pulled Hina.

    A big hurdle to Awakening I'm finding is beating the EX maps that drop the orbs. As a free player that 90 charisma hit for losing stings as I can't grind out on them. Plus the archer map being on Gold/platy farm day makes me very reluctant to waste resources I should use on that.

    That said I do have a Heavy Armour orb (or whatever they are called) so I can do Bernice if I ever get the silver/gold unit resources. Where Spica I almost have enough gold/silver resources but the 2 orbs are so far away as I'm nowhere near close to beating the map to get them - long story short I lack the second tank needed to do it.

    A lot relies on how your army is developed, what units you were lucky enough to get and where your strengths and weaknesses like in beating the awakening orb maps. Plus you can get helped or screwed when farming silver units. So many random factors!

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    Well Spica is definitely one of the better units you can get. Most other archers only get a measly "will target X type of unit as priority after range" passive which is largely ignoreable. Spica actually gets more damage to all archers and has great damage as well.

    As for the question of when to Saki, that totally depends on your own team and your DC and what AW fodders you have available. If you haven't even started leveling the fodders yet, then what point is there to wait to awaken things instead of getting Saki? On the other hand if you have some core units or very very special units around that are maxed and you can awaken rather soon then Saki will be taking a lower priority.

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    if you feel that saki will be critical in getting that completion reward then by all means get her Saki has her merits. I am not about to argue on that. I would have to agree with Tenhou on his stand on when to get Saki. I, for one wouldn't rush to get her but I am not a completely F2P player so my views might be a little skewed. Do what you feel is best for your team
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    what tenhou said was basically why I said to get saki:

    http://harem-battle.club/millennium-...html#post28226
    I might as well point out that with the current shitty silver drop rates nutaku has atm and the slow pace of events, you'd get extra DCs to buy both spica and saki instead of AW'ing every core unit you are able to. with events as slow as it is, you're better off getting a ranged melee to cover more grounds and letting yourself be better prepared for future events. especially when AW units are NOT a necessity to clearing most of the events, simply making them easier.

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    There's really not much up for debate. I just like to bully lolix on his bad opinions. :P

    No need to repeat the arguments for Spica and whatnot, though I will say that AW Bashira isn't as bad as people make out to be. Targeting ranged units first can be a lifesaver in protecting your own ranged units, assuming you didn't have a melee blocker to spare and redirect their attacks. Victoria's AW ability of prioritizing magic definitely seems niche though, since she would still ignore the more dangerous enemies like black goblin archers.

    I'm not sure what the point of Viera is either. At least Cypria's super niche role of cheesing early black armors or mummies in story maps makes sense, and Iris' usefulness needs no explanation. But Viera, from what I hear, is a worse Marie, who's already a niche unit and needs AW to be semi-useful. But the point stands that sailors are not ninja replacements. Their actual ranged ability is on a timer and their DPS is different. They're more akin to reverse-angels, except they can't even lightning rod all that well and are subpar duelists in comparison to the likes of Rika, so...

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    Your notion of bullying relies getting stuck on 1 bad word , and ignore the rest of the post even tho it was a very valid argumentation that most people generally agreed on.


    But i'm tired of this , and i'll just let you stroke your ego

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    At ZeroZet, I did not know that about Feng Shuists. That seems pretty big with the increased power of the drain on X and G maps. I think two AW archers are required for Crystal G but now I'm not so sure two non-AW healers would be able to keep up without Feng Shui. AW Iris will need 4 silver healers anyway, but I'm sure they will be farmable from an event soon enough. I'll just have to reevaluate what I need more in about 350 crystals when I have my AW Spica and have the option buy another spirit or save for Saki depending on what we get from events until then.

    At sylrr, I like your adaptation. The best thing you can do is understand the merits of every unit and make the best choice given your circumstances from Shrine. I'm just having a little trouble on the understanding the units part myself. About the Archer EX map, do you not have Leeanne and Bernard available? I have multiple Leeanne from map completion and one Bernard but it's possible he came from Shrine early on and I didn't realize. I see you mentioned Bernice also so I'm not sure how you lack a second tank. Here's the guide I used, base units. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CiEjozeUzU A lot are reduced and prob max aff as well but the deployments weren't so tight that I couldn't just adapt to the units I did have.

    At lolix, again this is why I started this thread. Despite the flare, we all seemed very close in our estimations but one word choice seemed to set things off.

  8. Because of how we go event -> break -> repeat freemium players will quickly run out of silvers for awakening material (I'm on this boat now ;_; ). It's always nice to have more units for more variety and free players only have the choice of Ricardo (who's not too good) and Saki for ranged melee units unless you spent crystals or were lucky to get Sabinne or Hina from 2K gatcha (you can get plats from this, it's how I got Lyla).

    Personally I wouldn't worry about trying Crystal Keeper G unless you have 2 Artillery Officers (Percis, Zola) for the last wave of eyes since it will be a long while before we get Swordmaster Sandra.

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    At sylrr, I like your adaptation. The best thing you can do is understand the merits of every unit and make the best choice given your circumstances from Shrine. I'm just having a little trouble on the understanding the units part myself. About the Archer EX map, do you not have Leeanne and Bernard available? I have multiple Leeanne from map completion and one Bernard but it's possible he came from Shrine early on and I didn't realize. I see you mentioned Bernice also so I'm not sure how you lack a second tank. Here's the guide I used, base units. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CiEjozeUzU A lot are reduced and prob max aff as well but the deployments weren't so tight that I couldn't just adapt to the units I did have.
    I have Bernice at 50CC60 and Leeann at 50. I am waiting on picking up another HA to CC Leeanne. As is she doesn't cut it on that map. Its a case of not getting certain units and getting others instead so I have to improvise. I run 2 Princesses in my main team (Themis L60 and Claudia L70) but sometimes another HA is better.

    I have had good luck in other ways though. I have Julian, Adele, Elizabeth and Sophia. I guess I could try Sophia as that second tank but her very short lifespan for stopping stuff makes me a bit iffy about it.

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