Thread: need advice for long term strategy

He's doing fine in the duelist department. He has the 3 best barbarians in the game (lyla/imelia/celia) + clissa + claudia. He just needs to raise them a bit.


As for AWs , my rule of thumb is : multipliers (like spica/bernice/belidna/katie/etc) and units that increase drop rates(celia/monica) get AW-ed first because of their utility. Speaking of utility , jerome is also a very good pick ,as sora said


Looking at your team , i'd follow what sora said , and awaken jerome first. Then i'd go either for monica for DC drop rates or bernice , since she boosts both her defense and makes an already strong gellius even tankier. Then i'd go cellia for increased drop rate

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Originally Posted by Tenhou

"Skip the almost-nanaly-powered Vampire Hunter, who will be a great asset, for a much more situational unit."

to be fair , elizabeth , just as nanaly , gets just range post aw , and 40 or so more base damage. That's pretty weak compared to what other AW are avaible. Not saying he shouldn't , because even that 40 damage is a lot during her skill and her 3 shots , but it's still not that high impact of an AW IMO. Not saying that len is a better choice tho...

Originally Posted by lolix

to be fair , elizabeth , just as nanaly , gets just range post aw , and 40 or so more base damage. That's pretty weak compared to what other AW are avaible. Not saying he shouldn't , because even that 40 damage is a lot during her skill and her 3 shots , but it's still not that high impact of an AW IMO. Not saying that len is a better choice tho...

Don't underestimate range, especially for a vampire hunter which is a rather low range class to begin with. 15 is quite a damn lot and allows Elizabeth to be placed in positions where normal VH's cannot cover everything. That said, i agree on not AWing her first and i never said so either.

well jerome was the one i was planning to aw next(just capped his trust this week) and i guess i'll farm the orbs to aw him, about the second i rarely use a second tank or either len, is that 5% def(around 30 def ) for gellius really important? are there any other unit i should focus for when aw skill will be added(have like 20 rainbow for it) and should i use my second clissa just to reduce my main cost by 1?
edit: just a few info about some unit
odette she has 40 cost sadly i'd just started on late august so i was able to get only one of her
fedora has her cost reduced to 17(min)

if you have time to place a 35 up mage , u probably have time to place a 40 up mage IMO. That being said , 5% defense on itself is not that much. But combine with prince buff , combine with katie , combine with len. Every little helps. Especially during his skill duration.


Then again , bernice is not a priority for you now i guess , but she is one of the better gold units to awaken in general IMO. Her SAW looks good as well , when we'll get that

Since you have most of my core units, you could try giving my strat a try if you're having trouble with Danger in the Oasis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xgdkqf5JJA

Definitely AW Jerome first, he'll help for that initial setup.
Use Spica instead of the Nanaly in my vid.
Clissa should be fine against the mummy mage.

Originally Posted by tidus

well jerome was the one i was planning to aw next(just capped his trust this week) and i guess i'll farm the orbs to aw him, about the second i rarely use a second tank or either len, is that 5% def(around 30 def ) for gellius really important? are there any other unit i should focus for when aw skill will be added(have like 20 rainbow for it) and should i use my second clissa just to reduce my main cost by 1?
edit: just a few info about some unit
odette she has 40 cost sadly i'd just started on late august so i was able to get only one of her
fedora has her cost reduced to 17(min)

Well if your Odette is 40 cost I would seriously consider leveling your Marius instead when you feel the need for more magic damage.

Bishops are great, though expensive to deploy, but I think his max cost is still only 37. His skill is only situationally useful but he hits like a damn truck without it and has a larger range than mages do (which goes up further after awakening).

Note that he is squishy as hell, so he needs to be placed safely (which is easy to do with his large range).

The hardest part would be getting all the affection items for another male unit.

Jerome first still obviously.

hello there i just pup my topic with my current team, what i'd like to know is wich unit improve next?(slowing worning on leanne and saki, and cc silver just for future aw atm) i've over 400 demon crystal is worth get another spice just for her -1 cr?
i've accumulated 110 sc should i try my luck and hope in cornelia is she worth for my team?

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Looks like you're making solid progress. I would NOT go all-in for the black in summon as ON AVERAGE you need to spend 165 SCs just to get A black.

For individual needs:
Tanks: Gellius AW goes a LONG way to filling your tank needs, honestly you shouldn't need much more for pure tanking (and you have AW Bernice if you do)
Healers: AW Camilla, very good, Iris and Fedora both CC60 is great too. Max level Alissa if you need 4th
Ranged DPS: AW Elizabeth and Spica, plus Odette, CC70 Bashira, CC60 Cloris, CC60 Cyrus, Beatrice is OK and great on those rare instances you WANT shorter range. Maybe raise Marius in your spare time, especially if your Odette is her max cost of 38
Duelists: Clissa and Claudia are your go-to duelists, beyond that Cellia and Lyla are OK and maybe raise Imelia
Utility: AW Jerome is great for UP generation, as is Clissa, Len and Shuka are great for skill cd reduction and UP cost down/all attack up buff skill, Memento is nice if you need to stall heavy hitters (though Gellius can tank almost anything we have right now), Saki and Horace for ranged on melee spot, Waltz with skill will boost Elizabeth and Bashira dps through the roof

Can't comment: Shiho, Solano, Lynn

Summary: solid team that should clear most content with the right deployment setup. Focus on AW Claudia, Len and Shuka IMO, afterwards maybe Iris and/or Fedora, though the three I can't comment on due to not having might change that. Those who DO have them want to chime in, be my guests.

id actually keep my dcs for a while. Aparently nutaku is going to take over during september. Id keep the dcs for that , in case they do decide to rotate the trading post

Originally Posted by lolix

He's doing fine in the duelist department. He has the 3 best barbarians in the game (lyla/imelia/celia) + clissa + claudia. He just needs to raise them a bit.


As for AWs , my rule of thumb is : multipliers (like spica/bernice/belidna/katie/etc) and units that increase drop rates(celia/monica) get AW-ed first because of their utility. Speaking of utility , jerome is also a very good pick ,as sora said


Looking at your team , i'd follow what sora said , and awaken jerome first. Then i'd go either for monica for DC drop rates or bernice , since she boosts both her defense and makes an already strong gellius even tankier. Then i'd go cellia for increased drop rate

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to be fair , elizabeth , just as nanaly , gets just range post aw , and 40 or so more base damage. That's pretty weak compared to what other AW are avaible. Not saying he shouldn't , because even that 40 damage is a lot during her skill and her 3 shots , but it's still not that high impact of an AW IMO. Not saying that len is a better choice tho...

you already said it, they're not level'd.

as for elizabeth vs Len, I'd go for Len as well because defense buff for when it's needed since she's useless otherwise, unlike elizabeth who can be used even pre-AW. also, 30% faster skill reuse. *looks at subjugation* she basically allows you to ramp up your team much, much faster in subjugations.