Thread: need advice for long term strategy

Originally Posted by ZeroZet

You don't roll for blacks. You roll for plats (or better yet, golds) and welcome any higher rarity you get.

Unless you're a whale. Then spend your money on whomever you want

^ This. The chance of a black is 3% so it takes on average 166.7 SCs just to get ANY of them (I mentioned this in my previous post). The chance of a platinum is 10% so every 50 SCs on average you should get one, so they're not bad to aim for as far as highlighted units go. Gold's 37% chance is much more reliable to aim for than the other two, but it primarily depends on how much you're willing to spend and what units you need, the former more than the latter.

U can never expect that to happen though.
Like tidus said... he did 30 summons and didnt even get a plat. I did 14 summons ones and got 9 golds out of it none of them was the boosted gold. Last time i went for Bernice or Yuyu on 17 summons and just barely got bernice with my last pull (17 summons already is more then 50$). Saying that ... u shouldnt even expect a gold that u want if u spend money even if its more then 50$. On some the shrine just is cruel. And sometimes so random. Never spend money at it expecting something or you might get frustrated and disappointed.

Never summon ever and live off maxed event units instead. Starve the RNG Demon Aigis, spend your SC on quality of life improvements and events.

Originally Posted by Talith

Never summon ever and live off maxed event units instead. Starve the RNG Demon Aigis, spend your SC on quality of life improvements and events.

i dont really agree with this either...and thats comming from a freemium

I have 2 accounts , 1 with camilla , tethis , cellia and the rest are pretty much event units. WHile i do have 1 of the better healers and 2 good duelists , this accounts pales in comparison with my second which has nanaly , jerome , uzume , lyla. Just getting 1 black can make1 account that much better.

Nanaly literally solo carried my second account (which was like 70 - 80 levels behind my main one) for the first events - started playing again 3 weeks before oddettes event - and the only event that i didnt managed to 3 star was solanos....and that was because i was unable to 3 star the last map

Getting a couple of very usefull plats (like jerome and uzume) was also great , and made me able to pass war of magic easier , without belinda for example , and without having to awaken or cr yuyu or multiple silver witches (at this moment i still dont have any cr caliopee on either account)
Getting a monica also made my second acount farm dcs quite a bit better (considering that right now my second account has more dcs and more awakened units then my main)



In conclusion , premium units an be really powerful to have...but they are a risk to aquire. Most of the times , the risk aint worth the cost , i an agree with that , but the rewards can be great as well

Adding to what Lolix said, many of the event units we've had are niche units anyways, not core team members. Only ones in recent memory that are full-time team members are Imelia, Shuka and Claudia, at least assuming you don't have their premium counterparts.

Azami: largely inferior to the constantly available Saki, ninjas are sort-of niche anyways (though ranged on melee spot is becoming increasingly useful)
Beatrice: skill is situational, but the rest of the pirates above silver are premium so she might fit in
Marie: situational gatekeeper
Momiji: samurai even with buff are still tricky to use, and her skill does let her serve as gatekeeper if you're lacking
Shao: Archer with assassination is useful but % chance means you can't rely on it so it's often better to stick to Spica and Bashira
Rita: Archer with very niche skill. Again, for general archer use, Spica and Bashira are better
Waltz: Dancers are situational and most of the units they really help are premium (Bashira is only one I can think of that's Gold+ and super-benefits)
Memento: Necromancers are situational as well, only useful if u need the cheap, disposable blockers to slow down enemies while ranged kills
Emilia: Valkyrie that is outclassed for her job by any other Valkyrie besides Elaine due to skill not really being suited to Valkyrie roles
Elva: looks like she'll be pretty damn powerful but her cost will be absurdly high without soldiers/Valkyries generating UP like mad

A lot of event units aren't worth using purely because premium units rule the roost, as they should.

The advantage of not having any premium units though is actually putting to use all the maxed out event/TP units you acquire as full-time members, and not 100% trivializing events through an above curve premium black unit.

I recognize that it's not for everyone, though. I certainly have a few premium units I wish I could have, and I'm a bit of a liar since I rerolled until I got a black for my first summon (got Deine then never rolled again, and she has devastated plenty of bosses for me).

I have no blacks and rolled 3 shrine plats, 2 of them with money. Being Marnie, Sherry and Garania. Not to unlucky, not too lucky. Even though i have to say sherry was propably the best premium plat i couldve pulled. So I am actualy happy that i still can find uses for Event Units other then those with hilarous teams. Heck i even use Memento instat of witches if i dont need them for thier slow (her dps is slightly higher then Cloris hers and emergency block/scrapegoats are always nice). And one thing... I wouldnt switch out Imelia with any other Bandit from shrine. Shes one of the few Event units that could be shrine units just as well. Since i started during Shukas event but sadly sadly sadly sadly wasnt able to get her, only shao, i dont have THAT many Event units anyways yet. Even though 6 is already a number. And with "just that" i can pretty reliabel 3 star every event map since a while. Shrine units arent needed if u have an event unit for all the roles u need. Since i joined a lot later then Karma or Claudia getting Sherry as Princess (ignoring her AW Passiv right now) alone was flat out enabeling stuff for me as example at the map where nasu uses 2 witches at the begining i just throw down my sherry instat and she kills the riders befor they can get past her. Its totaly possible to just work around this with event units though. I couldnt blame anyone though for trying his luck on a summon.