Thread: Help Request: Team

in all honesty I believe I learnt more conversing with charles and exk. still took awhile of experience and getting used to things before I learnt how to make better unit analysis. was definitely too shallow last year. starting on DMM helped a lot.

edit: lafate's guides probably helped the most though, with all the grinding spots and SC use.

which is why you sometimes make the same mistake they make , and tend to ignore the curent state of afairs and think way into the future , and consider units , maps or events we're not even sure if we will ever get or not.

I know how playing on different accounts can sometimes dilute the barriers between versions for you , since you interact with both what we have , and what we are supposed to get in the future ( at time , even i forget that my accounts are separate , and just include both as a single entity when talking about my army ).

For example , telling a newbie that the black mages are not even close to a random plat mage that we don't even have yet , is just going to confuse said newbie more then it's going to help him


It's always good to know what to expect from the future , but sometimes you have to stick to the basics

Originally Posted by lolix

which is why you sometimes make the same mistake they make , and tend to ignore the curent state of afairs and think way into the future , and consider units , maps or events we're not even sure if we will ever get or not.

I know how playing on different accounts can sometimes dilute the barriers between versions for you , since you interact with both what we have , and what we are supposed to get in the future ( at time , even i forget that my accounts are separate , and just include both as a single entity when talking about my army ).

For example , telling a newbie that the black mages are not even close to a random plat mage that we don't even have yet , is just going to confuse said newbie more then it's going to help him


It's always good to know what to expect from the future , but sometimes you have to stick to the basics

otoh, I feel you dont think into the future enough, underestimating the usefulness of a ranged melee for example, especially when a couple of those events that will be helpful with one are pretty close. also, he never specified so I didnt know whether he was a newbie or not, and whether he cared about future units or not. for the record, black mage estelle is superior to all plats by a wide margin, and given that marius is nutaku's ONLY bishop, it's not even a competition.

And you're taking things out of context....again. I didn't underestimated ranged on melee slots at all. I said that saki is a big investment that newbies shouldn't make blindly. Saki being a single unit , of a class that is not the only ranged on melee class in the game either.


If you re-read said entire argument , i didn't said she's a bad unit. I said that she's a rather good unit stat-wise , but she costs a crapload to aquire , and therefore is not a priority for a newbie account. Also , she costs more to field then a duelists, and while her AW makes her quite a bit more accesible , well you are also required to awaken her.


I don't think those are not fair points to make in regards of a unit that a lot of newbies would want to aquire simply because she's a black. Yes , she is good to have....when you don't have other priorities. Especially since her class is still a niche class , and there aren't that many maps that are do or die without a ranged on melee class. Newbies should have other priorities.

Originally Posted by soranokira

well, thing is, you need to look at pre-AW (or preferably, cc50). at the moment, he only has 1 mage (garania). therefore, he needs another mage. marius was not a healer replacement, but a mage replacement. so that brings it down to marius vs mehlis. marius has higher base damage than mehlis without needing trust (should be higher than plat mages as well), which is why I recommended marius.

just justifying my point, and I'd say experience doesnt count for everything here; logical analysis and argument counts for more. lolix who started around the same time as me, and whom I almost always disagree with, made a fair point about katie being mostly enough for soldier use, and considering that he has finished leveling katie to a decent level, I opt'd to shift zenobia down to middle priority. Zenobia is still a better soldier than katie, but leveling her atm wouldnt probably be high priority exactly.

Ah, for some reason I thought he had Mehlis leveled already when I was writing that post. I guess then it comes down to cost (both gold to level and UP) vs output. Marius obviously has way higher output, especially since he doesn't need trust to improve as much as Mehlis needs Affection to improve, and she only catches up in range during skill. Certain maps he might need the cheaper mage in Mehlis but if UP isn't an issue (and gold for leveling, given all the units he has to level), then Marius is hands-down the better choice.

I've only been playing for a year or so I think, I know I missed Aria (*sad face*) and by the time I started Bashira was your first summon instead of a temporary TP unit. I've spent a fair amount on this game to get the units I have at the level I have (just Awakened Aisha this morning =D) but I still have plenty to learn, and I have no clue about future events and what sort of units will be needed. Still like to give my opinions on units that I have, but as far as planning for future events, idk what's to come.

That is the current point of units:
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EDIT: I've come a damn long way! Thanks to you guys

Since there are no events for now, i am still working on my stuff, as it seems i even get another week <.< WOOOOO well here is the update: 3 weeks of work as it seems

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feel free to comment and stuff :3

So, my recomendation is that you start to level up key units for the next event, specially being a star one. Good thing that you already have at least three AoE Magic damage, because that will be important for G map. You can find some videos on wiki. Looks like 3rd witch can help (Adele) and probably a 4th or 5th healer for the 70/6 map. http://millenniumwaraigis.wikia.com/...d#Video_Guides

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Oh, some more levels on Marius/Zola may be very handy too

yeah my problem is i do not have CC-fooders for those lv 50 units i have (missing witches and heavy armors) but i'll definitly level up my units more thanks for the link it is very helpfull! i can now prepare for the event i hope to get all 21 stars (even tho i doubt i get them all xD)

Unit Update: First Awakening!
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how are you guys doing tho? anyone of you still alive? :3