Thread: Help Request: Team

Originally Posted by lolix

thats the difference between normal units and black units - 1 sec skill on deploy. But after her initial skill on deploy ability , u still need to time her skill usage

basically, angels are good as long as you only need them to block occasionally. 1 exception is SAW Eln (gold angel) who has a 10s reuse timer.

i see, i am still working on leveling up my units. So far i got my 2nd healer to 42 and my cloris to 47 (which made me be able to beat the dancer 40/5 map

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Update: I got some more units and i've been working on my goals, my Waltz is even minimum cost! (event success WOOOP!) UNITS THIS TIME SORTED BY CLASS! (i am learning!)
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so my current work on:
0) use Stamina on demon crystals for spicia
1) leveling my bashira from cc40 to 50
2) leveling my 1st Iris to cc50 (maybe cost reduce her because i have her sister camilla and fedora now)
3) get my 2nd iris or Camilla to cc40/50
4) get bernice cc40/50
5) get marius and yuyu to cc30/40 (maybe Cost reduce yuyu, would require cc all 3 yuyus)
6) level up fedora (or 2nd iris) to cc40/50
7) level my duelists of choice (too many duelists now q.q) (maybe my new thetis could be a good idea because valkyrie)

I look forward to chat with you guys again :3 missed you all <3

EDIT: also what about Marr? does she actually count as a healer or ....

i guess you spent some SCs on premium summons , since i see some units that i haven't seen before (zenobia , tethis , camilla , lilia , victoria , adele and marr).


I would love to give you some actual new advice , but the cora strategy in leveling up your account , is still pretty much the same. You still go for a core composed of HAT + witches , duelists and mages. Sophie is still not a high priority .Difference being that you have more options right now.


So let's take it with the begining :


0. It's a good call. Spica is a very good archer. Between bashira , spica and victoria , you should have very little problems with ranged prowess. Problem with victoria is that she;s overshadowed by both spica and bashira , but she still is a good archer by herself

1. the difference between cc40 to cc50 is minimal in damage. Right now you can let bashira stand at cc40 , and try to raise some of the newer stuff.


2. Well , you could level her to 40 and let her stand there. again difference between 40 to 50 in heal is rather small , but the costs of leveling her up (both gold and stamina per level) start getting higher over level 40 , and considering u have a decent amount of units to level , you can come back later and level afer you made a decently high core team.

Also keep in mind that iris changes her skill after CC , so you might want to cc the copies first , then feed them to main Iris with 3 gold fairies for a massive boost in xp.


3. Get camilla cc-ed asap. Probably not right after iris , since you might need to level other stuff first , and having 2 cc-ed gold + healers is pointless if you actually lack tanks or units that actually do benefit from her heal. That being said , camilla is probably the best pure healer in the game right now , and she is quite a bit better then iris in the healing department...especially if she has a couple levels in her skill.


4. Yes. do get bernice cc-ed asap. Before camilla. SHe is a good tank. Habing healers without a tank is pointless. good call.


5. I actually like both yuyu and marius , and they are good units to level up. But i'd actually wait a bit now to level them up.


6. You can forget about fedora for a long long amount of time right now (untill skill awakening...and even then , dunno). Between camilla , iris , and potentially marr , you won't need fedora. There will be maps that will require 4 healers in the future , but that's going to take some time. Actually i'd level marr over fedora since she's a godsend on G dailies and poison maps. ALso while she is a weaker healer , she does heal 2 - 3 targets at once (3 after awakening i believe) , so she is more of a "sustain all team" healer , rather then a burst healer like camilla. She is better vs enemies that can aoe your team then bosses that can nuke a single target. For that you will have camilla


7. yes , you have a lot of GREAT duelists , and it's actually hard to chose. I'd personally go with tethis (and awaken her if possible since she becomes imune to paralizying effects) , then i'd level lilia since she's a great princess , and then lyla.
Somewhere in between i'd level sophie as well since she's a monster stat wise.


8. Mages. You already have garania which is a great mage. But i'd actually level mehlis over the 2 male gold mages , since she's better both stat wise , and her awakening (and eventually skill aw are way better). I'd actually level a zola as well , since she's a pretty decent unit and might help in G dailies.



9. Adele and zenobia. 2 good units. Adele is acutally really good after awakening since she gives all your units 10% extra hp just by being in your team. Zenobia is a plat soldier with very good stats , but she's more of a combat soldier. If u wanted pure utility , jerome is probablly better. If you want a soldier that can go and actually fight , she's your girl. Being a plat , also means that her skill cd is lower then katie , so i'd level her up when i have the time as well.



Now , let's take all that , and put them in order , as i would do it. Ofc , you can change the order if u feel like it , or you feel i'm wrong. This is just my opinion :


iris to cc40 then leave her there (since u need 4 levels anyway) >>>> bernice to cc40 >>>> adele cc40 >>>> camille cc40 >>> tethis cc40 >>> lilia 50-60 >>> marr cc40 >>> yuyu cc60 (assuming you want to pass war of magic to start farming black spirits for sophie) >>> cc40 sophie >>> AWakenings.

Any time you get enough DCs for spica , you get her , max her and awaken her asap...even over other units



Now , let's talk awakenings : spica (priority) , adele , bernice , marr, camille , tethis , katie , sophie , monica , etc. Everything outside of spica can be done in pretty much any order. I'd take the multiplicators first (like spica and adele or katie or bernice , because they buff other units. Units like monica or cellia for example will get better farming passives , so those might be useful as well. Other then that , just go with your basic core units first)

Yes i did spent some Crystals :3 had some leftovers at the end of the month too bad I didn't get a black unit tho

1) noticed and removed from list
2) changed to cc40 (5 levels to go) also yes i saw that with the skill, that is why i got the idea by seing my cc1 iris, working on current fairy event to get 3 golds)
3) "camilla is probably the best pure healer in the game right now" WOW!
4) swiched step 3 and 4!
5) removed from list for now (because i have cloris and marius for now, also i think Adele > Yuyu)
6) Marr added to list for cc40
7) Duelists to cc40 written down: Thetis -> Lilia -> lyla -> Sophie -> Imelia (i just want her q.q)
8) Added Mehlis to my list, tho Marius should be prior to that?
9) added Zenobia and Adele to the list for cc40

just saw your ordering... also i think awakening will be a looong time
for now List (follows) and keep this updated according to how it is going, trying to aim for everything cc40 on my list and try to get my iris cost reduced afterwards

0) Dcrystals for Spica (then cc40)
1) bernice to cc40
2) Iris to cc40
3) Camilla to cc40
4) Marr to cc40
5) Thetis zo cc40
6) yuyu to cc40
7) Lilia to 50
8) Lyla to cc40
9) Sophie to cc40,
10) Imelia to cc40
11) Mehlis or Marius to cc40
12) Adele and Zenobia to cc40

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that is a pretty good order , but i don't see the point of leveling 3 healers 1 after the other. You won't need 3 right away. That's why i spaced them a bit and adviced you to level other units between them.


Now yuyu vs adele....well , i've had this conversation before. DPS wise , adele is probably higher during skill....a bit lower otherwise , because yuyu is an elf (higher base attack damage and attack speed) - 427 attack at cc max level yuyu as oposed to 421 adele.
Now utility wise , adele will be better after awakening , and as i said during skill duration , but yuyu will let you pass war of magic (you need a witch with either insane dps , aka despara , or a witch with range increase like belinda or yuyu - an 1-2 levels in said skill as well - to help you pass it. Passing war of magic will give you access to farming black fairies for your sophie. Leveling blacks without fairies is a very costly bussiness. I can tell you from personal experience , as i had to level nanaly without black fairies).


In the end , both of them would be nice to have leveled up.



As for camilla , well....our black healer was supposed to be an event healer , but our original healer (black iris) was considered too loli to be in the game , so they replaced her with liana. Liana is sitll a decent healer , but she doesn;t really burst heals. She will be better on maps with monsters that can give your units abnormal status ailements to your army. But strictly speaking , in terms of burst healing , camilla far outheales liana during her skill duration.

ACtually chydis might be better then camille since her base attack is higher (again , elf unit) during her normal attack , but she gets less % increase during skill 1.4 as oposed to 1.7 , but also gets increased range. Considering she has higher base stats , even with less % increase , the amount she heals should be close to camille anyway , so there is that. Prblem with chydis is that she's a tp unit , and we haven't gotten a tp rotation in literally ages.

okay will go for Yuyu before Adele then, my Mehlis vs Marius question is still open tho, also will increase the space between Camilla and Marr, should possibly focus on Camilla?

not sure actually. I've seen daily g maps done with iris and marr , but i don't have personal experience with marr , as opossed to camille , which i actually have. My awaken camille (around lvl 70) heals for example for 1.2k damage during her skill. ...which is more then the total life a spica has lol... Seeing that you already have an iris tho , you might prioritize marr over camille i guess...



Edit : i actually like marius , and again , he's also an elf. Elf units are generally glass cannons : aka they do a shitload of damage. On the other side , he's a guy , so harder to max aff , and aff bonus is just half of that of a female unit usually. He's still going to outdps mehlis i think , and he is a bit more versatile. Also you do have a pure mage in garania , so you should be okay going for marius right now. I think mehlis has a better AW (gets attack speed while amrius gets 15 range) , but as i said , u already have garania as a pure mage , and mehlis is not exactly your AW priority

i guess i can always just go for iris -> bernice -> thetis while waiting for some more people to check this thread, maybe someone has experience with both of them

EDIT: thank you since i have some time i'll see what happens with Marius and Mehlis, once i am that far on the list that is, will possibly level up both to 50 and see which one i like more / need more often both wont be AW targets for now anyways

probably a better idea , yeah

I have made and Marius so I can't Chuck my 2 cents on this aha. Since you have the plat mage. Garina she boosts mages after awakening. So mehlis over Marius even tho he is plat. The damage difference is like 50. But mehlis range is God. As Mar. She is a god send in any map that does aoe damage. Or poison maps. Has poison on x and G are huge. She half's the damage and 70% less after awaken. Tho her heal for single targets taking damage is not great. She is a must for X and G maps. She solo heals on any x map and on demon crystal G.