Thread: Want some advice

Originally Posted by Kotono

I wouldn't roll premiums just to get those silvers. There should be enough available for free through other means as you progress. I think you should be able to CC 2x silver archers and healers without needing to attempt summons.

Even so, you have 3k gold. Having those silvers right now would do you no good whatsoever because you can't level your characters. You can still farm for Odettes on E, assuming you can take her down. H has the added benefit of having a 100% chance for first time drop, and X has the added 50% drop chance at 6 stamina cost. Odette could certainly be useful to you, so I think you are fine if you just farm the lower map and hope for the drops to get as many copies of her as you can, and not waste your stamina on higher maps. In truth, your team is still quite weak to be taking on anything more than the first few maps of any event.

Besides X, is there any other drop % difference between stages? I mean, drop % for Odette at H is the same than E?

The more difficult the map the bigger drop rate. E has about 4% if i checked correctly while H has 8%.

Need some advice, who should i level



Note: i already have Nanaly ad spica at max, so is it needed to level bashira too?

yes but no hurry. I would suggest leveling saki, Karma, gellius and cloris more, then max Horace, Elaine (in case you ever need a cheap valk), Cellia (for high hp damage soaking), Rikka, Rowanna, Solano, Echidna, Bashira, Bernice, Uzume. more or less in that order.

Personally , i think saki is not that much of a priority. I'd rather raise bashira , since archers are more general use. After that i would probably cc bernice , since a secondary tank is always good to have. Celia is a very good duelist as well , since she has a massive hp pool , MR , decent damage and a skill that reduces damage as well. It just depends on what you want to do with your team. Other then that , i kinda agree with sora

just mentioned saki because she's a black (instant deploy assassinating ranged unit in a melee slot, and somewhat of a mini-tank due to her 50% dodge). bashira relegated to a later leveling spot simply because nanaly and spica are already up, and under general situations there's less urgent need to triple archer, so I opt'd to recommend units to fill up the other gaps first, as well as further leveling on useful units that are slightly lower level. bernice is in a similar situation with bashira; there's gellius and maribel, so bernice is not likely to find great use until AW comes where she'll be one of the more important units you'd want AW'd first (not the most important few, but she'd be higher up than bashira for sure).

well, frankly speaking the order is likely to change if I knew what the other units in your lineup are (e.g. if you have kerry and/or other valks, elaine would be pushed further down)

Originally Posted by soranokira

yes but no hurry. I would suggest leveling saki, Karma, gellius and cloris more, then max Horace, Elaine (in case you ever need a cheap valk), Cellia (for high hp damage soaking), Rikka, Rowanna, Solano, Echidna, Bashira, Bernice, Uzume. more or less in that order.

thanks fro the advice, is raising karma first better?

Originally Posted by lolix

Personally , i think saki is not that much of a priority. I'd rather raise bashira , since archers are more general use. After that i would probably cc bernice , since a secondary tank is always good to have. Celia is a very good duelist as well , since she has a massive hp pool , MR , decent damage and a skill that reduces damage as well. It just depends on what you want to do with your team. Other then that , i kinda agree with sora

is it really needed to raise 3 high level archer?

Originally Posted by soranokira

just mentioned saki because she's a black (instant deploy assassinating ranged unit in a melee slot, and somewhat of a mini-tank due to her 50% dodge). bashira relegated to a later leveling spot simply because nanaly and spica are already up, and under general situations there's less urgent need to triple archer, so I opt'd to recommend units to fill up the other gaps first, as well as further leveling on useful units that are slightly lower level. bernice is in a similar situation with bashira; there's gellius and maribel, so bernice is not likely to find great use until AW comes where she'll be one of the more important units you'd want AW'd first (not the most important few, but she'd be higher up than bashira for sure).

well, frankly speaking the order is likely to change if I knew what the other units in your lineup are (e.g. if you have kerry and/or other valks, elaine would be pushed further down)

dont find saki much use, coz of her up cost, is she that nice of as a mini tank? as for kerry already maxed her with -2 up and +2 skill, since got her clones from the goddess and get lucky with the combine . my duelist is just lilia and kerry, is not it better to raise horace. and for bernice, just like you say already have marible and gellius so it just too lazy raising another tank

I would go against what sora said and not level your lvl 50CC50 plats even more, level 50 really is the limit where the exp and gold are needed en masse. You want to use platinum armours with 3x spirits of the same rarity for those. The exp gained from the standard fodders could be used to level your pre-50 units a lot higher than they would benefit the post-50 units.

That said, since you have Kerry, Nanaly and Spica at max already i would say...
1. Horace - She is a good unit to have both as an additional soaker and due to her ranged attacks.
2. Uzume - No i am not joking, you have a GREAT lineup already so add her skill into the mix and ditch Sakuya.
3. Lynn/Ada - I have no idea what other units you have, but you seem to lack proper early rush stoppers, they will be useful in some missions
4. Cellia - Her passive is great, and since your team looks rather solid i would prepare her for awakening by maxing her out.
5. Bernice, Lynn or Ada - Bernice is great to have another perma-tank as opposed to Maribel, while leveling another rush stopper is rather nice too.
6. Bashira - Because catgirl.

Aside from these, i would level certain units with plat armours:
Gellius > Odette > Karma = Lilia > Maribel
You want a maxed out tank and Gellius is incredibly solid. Likewise Odette will be a good mage to have maxed and it does not hurt to have a maxed out plat magic soaker like Lilia either.

Now, if you did heed my advice for normal fodder, you CAN also just max out Gellius and Odette and then save all the other armours + spirits for Cellia since she more or less equals Lilia and will be great to awaken for an increased passive at that.

I didnt say you have to use iron/bronze fodders for lvl beyond 50 you know =P but was looking at 60+ at least for the plats tenhou mentioned.

@exkidd: Karma should get a few more levels mainly with exp armor + fairy if possible, due to the need for her to get some attack stats to deal more dmg before her skill ends.

Saki has high UP cost, but she does better ranged dmg than Horace. still, Horace, usually suffices for your ranged unit in a melee slot role. (saki just for instant skill on deploy since you already got her to lvl 20+ anyway)
As for duelist, with lilia and kerry around, what you need next is a hp soaker, which is basically Cellia here (unless you have conrad or lyla. but you can double cellia as preparation for AW as what tenhou mentioned). Horace, in general, is more of a ranged unit in a melee slot more so than duelist (but she is helpful for thinning out waves or dueling some minibosses at her spot) (I tend to clump duelist and ganker together more. Ganker = deploy to block unit btw. Duelist is simply a unit that can fight 1v1 against tough units)

and I repeat, Bernice and Bashira are great to level and to have around, even if you already have better. still, from your current lineup, they are lower in priority. Because of that, I am suggesting units that are geared more towards what seems to be your weaker areas.
as for Uzume, she is most certainly better than Sakuya, but to my understanding, advance guards and samurai in general don't get good chances to shine. Still, Uzume is great after AW.
as for Lynn/Ada, reason I didnt mention them is due to having Cypria, which should suffice for most situations, and considering your lack of CR for those 2, cypria is likely a better option. Rikka is a niche unit, that can be used as a single-use bomb (IMO) - deploy her among a large crowd of weak units, then when her hp is low, activate skill and watch her deal as much dmg as she can before pulling her out. her high base stats make her a decent hp soak, but she cannot be healed. hence the single-use bomb comment. Rowanna also a niche unit in a certain sense, as a great duelist that can self-heal for maps where you can't heal e.g. Lynn's event 4th map where no ranged slots.

Just justifying my suggestions~

Originally Posted by Tenhou

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Originally Posted by soranokira

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so i should:
1. raise +50 level unit only with plat-armor+fairy?
2. Horace=Cellia=Saki choose to level one of them (tbh i never use any bandit class coz well just doesnt like the unit)
3. can i raise uzume only after awakenig confirmed? coz uzume is rarely used, if not at all and her ability only work if she deployed
4. Lynn and Ada, already have maxed betty and high level cypria, is it still needed?
5. Gellius and Karma both need maxed out with higher priority, skip lilia
6. Odette or Solano maxed out?
7. Rowanna and Rika no need yet to level them?

oh btw here my maxed unit