Thread: Balance speculation

Deine got also some changes:
Her aw passive changed from 25% more def for +2up to 40% more der for +3up.
Also her affection changed from +144atk/+90def to +101atk/+101def

Awakening Waltz requires a CC Silver/ Gold Ninja. Thankfully I got one for completing a story mission and they require a rogue to CC so I'm not locked out until some event with one shows up.

The best stuff that affects me the most:

Saki and Horace, two work horses in my army, went from 18 -> 14, and 22 -> 17 UP cost. So happy about that. Shuka is now actually useable, going from 19 to 14 UP, and Ada now only costs 8 to deploy so I can bring her more often as well. Lyn went from 1,652 HP to 2,354 at CC70, so that makes her a lot more usable as well. Imelia got more ATK and more HP as well. Rowanna also got a huge HP buff, going from 1866 to 2467 HP and gaining 60 Defense as well.

Kerry is trying to make her case that she should be deployed more often but I really wish she was cuter...

Deine is looking more like the super wall I deploy her as.

So I need to awaken Solano and Waltz. Consider awakening Rowanna, Ada, Lynn, and Kerry.

Master list of changes @wiki. All hail Lzlis!

Samurai still need to go down another 2-4 UP, IMO. They're anti-rush units, and -1 doesn't help them hit the early rushes, instead they'll still be stuck with the later rushes where there will be stronger mobs mixed in that samurai don't have the Defense to hold against and still block 2 other units.

That said, a lot of helpful changes. Uzume -5 UP in particular helps me a ton, and Sophie down 4, plus mages -2, Minerva +10 range and faster attack speed, Marius -2 UP, Zola -3 UP is nice for Wednesday/Thursday dailies, and a ton of skill CD reductions including Sophie, with Sherry and Sybilla skills buffing attack even more!

BTW, on that list, ZeroZet, it says Shogun UC-0, but Samurai and Samurai Master are UC-1, assume that's a typo?

Samurai's UC reduce is poor beucase they got huge stat buffs

They did get buffs which makes them more appealing to try out, and I really want to one day make use Momiji, but it still feels a little hard to justify. Maybe pairing them with a super dancer makes it more appealing.

The advance guard buff (specifically awoken) puts them at a UP point that makes them appealing as an anti-rush guard that attacks everything they block (and makes Waltz deploy at only 1 cost), so they are budget Samurai Soldiers. Once revival is here and we can get Anya, the big bad Dragon Samurai Princess that can handle the units that normally you don't actually want the Samurai to catch, that makes regular Samurai even less appealing.

At the UP/performance point they are at it feels like the kind of role that would be amazing if it actually had black tier stats and skills but struggles a bit without it. Maybe that's why there is still no Black tier Samurai, the unit would be a monster that slaughters everything short of bosses you need dedicated duelists to catch.

Man I am LOVING Shuka now. Dropping her down means I can drop Ada for 5 cost, Waltz for 1, and Prince for 7. So freaking good. Give me Pipin's event so I can get an 14(11) cost healer out on the field as well. Makes me reconsider ignoring the Valk event since that means I can get a gold++ 10 cost valk on the field for 7 giving me more UP generation.

i also have a marnie. After awakening her , i get even cheaper melee stuff. Actually , i think they overbuffded the units for how back we are on the event list compared to DMM. Might make our next events a bit easy

Originally Posted by lolix

a max level yuyu , a cloris and maybe a caliopee should be enough (add a mage for safety and you're good)

U still need like level 2-3 of skill on yuyu btw

Originally Posted by Overload

I need to add to this, the Yuyu also needs to be 13up. There are multiple possibilities:
1. One guaranteed cr from a dupe Yuyu,
2. aw her (passive is one cr), but you need to lvl her to 30, because she looses with aw a bit of stats at 1st lvl or
3. having aw Jerome in your team for having 2up more at the start of the map.

After Sybilla, Yuyu will be my next AW unit, spent most of the last event farming enough Calliopes to AW both, the one downside is I could never manage to get another one after I got my bare minimum I was trying to get. I have a few duplicates of yuyu I want to put into my main, issue is I don't have any more witchs to mini CC these yuyus to get a possible SU with my main.

So going to have to hang on a little longer before I can do War of Magic. Farming black spirits is so close yet so far

Originally Posted by Nero010

Remember i asked a few days ago about getting saki or an extra copy of spica? Now saki is at -4 UP and even more atk speed just turninger her to a "real" scary black unit.

before the update I gave in and thought I would min cost Spica, I bought a AW spirit and another copy of her with the DC's I had. I guess that seems to have paid off if Saki got a -4 UP I shouldn't have to worry about her as much seeing as many believe from DMM experience that Spica will change before Saki.

Originally Posted by Talith

Man I am LOVING Shuka now. Dropping her down means I can drop Ada for 5 cost, Waltz for 1, and Prince for 7. So freaking good. Give me Pipin's event so I can get an 14(11) cost healer out on the field as well. Makes me reconsider ignoring the Valk event since that means I can get a gold++ 10 cost valk on the field for 7 giving me more UP generation.

Oh how I want Shuka so bad, should have found this game earlier so I would have been strong enough to get her. Didn't get any units that event because I only just started playing. Can't wait for the revival event on this one...but that seems sooo faarr away....

Originally Posted by lolix

i also have a marnie. After awakening her , i get even cheaper melee stuff. Actually , i think they overbuffded the units for how back we are on the event list compared to DMM. Might make our next events a bit easy

Is Marnie better than Waltz? wondering which one I should lvl as my first dance. I have a few Waltz I can combine into my main so I would be able to CR and SU her better than Marnie but I have heard Marnie is the better dance??