Thread: Help with Crystal Keeper X

Did anyone confirm the 40% bonus vs. flying Units for AW Archers yet?
Cause i am now Awakening my Spica and just did some math on Crystal Keeper X and should easily be able to one shot the eyes with an AW Spica that recovered her max CC Atk. With the 1.4 instat of 1.2 extra vs. flying she would get to 889 Atk with 502 base atk (base atk at cc70). And only 810 is needed. With the 1.2 she would drop far below though as we all know.


I think i was able to confirm it at my own. I just did Crystal Keeper H, the eyes there need 630 ATK to be one shot. I used Spica AW1 with 457 Base Atk (489 with her own buff deployed) without fielding Prince(!) and one shot the eyes thats only possible with 40% bonus vs flying. With 40% she would deal 685dmg and one shot the eyes with 20% she would only deal 567dmg and fail, but she didnt. So i guess i can confirm that the AW bonus vs. flying indeed is 40% now and Spica can already one shot the eyes at Crystal Keeper X with an base Attack of just 455 (resulting in 811 with AW passive and Prince). AW1 Spica has 457 atk so should already be able to one shot the eyes in X.

Originally Posted by Nero010

Did anyone confirm the 40% bonus vs. flying Units for AW Archers yet?
Cause i am now Awakening my Spica and just did some math on Crystal Keeper X and should easily be able to one shot the eyes with an AW Spica that recovered her max CC Atk. With the 1.4 instat of 1.2 extra vs. flying she would get to 889 Atk with 502 base atk (base atk at cc70). And only 810 is needed. With the 1.2 she would drop far below though as we all know.


I think i was able to confirm it at my own. I just did Crystal Keeper H, the eyes there need 630 ATK to be one shot. I used Spica AW1 with 457 Base Atk (489 with her own buff deployed) without fielding Prince(!) and one shot the eyes thats only possible with 40% bonus vs flying. With 40% she would deal 685dmg and one shot the eyes with 20% she would only deal 567dmg and fail, but she didnt. So i guess i can confirm that the AW bonus vs. flying indeed is 40% now and Spica can already one shot the eyes at Crystal Keeper X with an base Attack of just 455 (resulting in 811 with AW passive and Prince).

I noticed my Spica doing more damage as well, haven't done the math calculations but I feel she has that upgrade. Just gave Crystal Keeper X a go for the first time and managed to 1 hit the eyes though I am not sure what lvl Spica had to be originally to do that. Mine is Currently AW at lvl 60.

Originally Posted by Jay Rich

I noticed my Spica doing more damage as well, haven't done the math calculations but I feel she has that upgrade. Just gave Crystal Keeper X a go for the first time and managed to 1 hit the eyes though I am not sure what lvl Spica had to be originally to do that. Mine is Currently AW at lvl 60.

She had to be AW70 exactly. I Edited another small sentence in. If im not wrong (at least my math shouldnt everyone can do the math himself to test it) she can now already one shot the eyes on X at AW1

Originally Posted by Nero010

She had to be AW70 exactly. I Edited another small sentence in. If im not wrong (at least my math shouldnt everyone can do the math himself to test it) she can now already one shot the eyes on X at AW1

I thought it was around there originally and to one shot the eyes at AW1 is impressive. Well glad X is now a possible mission, now to see what G is like lol.

I have yet to confirm that the theory is working in praxise but my bigger worrys are if an paper thin hp Spica (749HP) can survive the high poison of the map with an iris cc60 healer and i hesitate to waste my charisma and stamina trying. Spicas HP isnt that much higher at AW70(or 60 which u used) but i dont know. When u did the map did u see her hp ever drop so low that 100hp less she would die?(Since Bashiras max HP got buffed she has more breathing room at the top corner of the map).

don't quote me on this , but i thinki recall our AW archers doing less then the 40% dmm aw archers do. We still got a boost vs flying units tho.


Spica can do that map at around lvl 60 or 70 after being AW. And technically u need just her , 2 healers and a prince , but from personal experience , u might want to bring other ranged units for said map , just to make the last rush easier for her to deal with (depending on her skill level , its possible to not shoot down enough eyes and get overwhelmed by the last wave if her skill is too low - and doesn't have enough range to drop a few extra eyes) . Ofc u will have to retreat the others

Mine is AW62 and she is one-shotting the eyes now instead of leaving slivers of hp so yeah the damage buff is definitely working now.

I do G only now that I can handle it comfortably, though I use AW Aisha, Nanaly, Minerva, Spica, Marr and Jerome, along with prince and 50CC60 Zola, plus AW Uzume buff. If you want I can do one-shot testing though, since I know which eyes are OK to let through and gold is not a reason to do any daily map except Monday lol. IIRC Spica is AW 68, Minerva AW 56 and Nanaly AW 62, if you want me to test this when I get home from work to get an idea of where the attack value for one-shot in G is, let me know here.

The eyes in G need 900 ATK to be one shot (something that Archers now can achive) thats not so much the problem though i think. More the map itself.
Zola can one shot the eyes on the X map now at a decent CC level too since her class base attack got greatly increased.

Is it needed to have an AW healer on the X map? I always see AW Iris being used, doesnt a cc60 Iris cut it?

Originally Posted by Nero010

Is it needed to have an AW healer on the X map? I always see AW Iris being used, doesnt a cc60 Iris cut it?

I think she should, though you may want to combine her with another (temporary) healer, and maybe a lightning rod towards the end as well. Any high health melee unit should do just fine.