Thread: Team Advice for Future Content

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I don't disagree @Nero, my first AW myself was Katie because I lacked the 2nd CCed heavy to beat BSII for commission sortie farm, but that was in a different climate altogether. The buff patch means you only need 1 CCed heavy and no AW to do it now and X and G difficulty dailies weren't a thing on Nutaku yet so Spica wasn't the huge priority she is now. I can't even come up with a scenario of early Shrine summons where I still wouldn't 100% be AW Spica as first AW with current patch.

As to reducing silvers, I'd look over more guides or your deployment as I did all the Orb maps without any CRed silvers or Goddess buff. Some are definitely harder than others and I recall having trouble on some but I got it all done pre buff patch so it's definitely possible. I do definitely think CRing silvers in the long haul is worth it as you get so many more compared to higher rarities, especially Alissa and Dorca which will get a lot of mileage even on hard maps with lots of AW units needed, but it's not a priority and I'd want plenty of spares for AW fodder before I start combining.

This is kiiinda out of topic but i still want to answer on it.
This one
If you dont have an CCed silver Archer at 10 cost but instat have to use for example shao at 13 cost (or Spica reduced to 13) (which is the case for me and there are a bunch of "newer" players who havent cced silver archers cause we got so many event archers lately). Lacking these 3 UP u will be even if u place a silver healer at full 18UP instat of Iris with 20UP, exactly 1 UP short which results in prince being killed by the valk. Tried it several times. Only with CRing my silver healer to 17UP i could outbalance the 3 more UP i had to spend on an archer (not to forget that this silver archer is two times cost reduced). Another problem later on, pre patch u had to have your heavy at skill level 4/5 to be able to survive clissa and the black armor from the left, also having your silver heavy at full 21 cost rather then 18 like in the guide makes it realy tight getting it out fast enough to use the skill in time, its stressfull in general. My skill was 1/5. The only way i got around this was switching in a third healer earlier then in the guide and catching the black armor from the left with a princess.
There you have your guide where at least one cred silver and heavly increased skill level was needed. At least the high skill level isnt needed anymore after the patch. The UP doesnt change.

i've done that map without silver cr-ed archers , on my non nanaly acount without a cr-ed spica or shao btw.

A map can be done in different ways , u know

Agree with lolix, the tuesday and wednesday maps were the easier ones imo. I did use the max cr Shao though with this guide which I forgot costs one less than a max cost silver. I actually still don't have a CCed silver archer because I started the week before Shao event which was enough to get stars for perfect Shao no Shuka and just use her over any silver. Lots of guides use two reduced silver archers on maps (thinking of key kii) but I just have to change strat or usually extra power on Bashira or Spica will make up for cost. But then this guide didn't even have max unit lvls which I did before going for orbs. Perhaps you had a particularly low prince lvl to not survive to the healer deploy?

Progress Report: Spent all of the gems I had trying to get plat armors last monday, only managed to get 5 though. Maxed Sherry because I was in desperate need of a duelist and am still considering Awakening Sherry over Jerome since I already 3*'d Immortal Beast which was my first goal. Should be finishing off Mehlis this weekend as well. Bernice should be finished early in the week since she is near max as well. Next on the list is raising Spica to 70 for awakening, although honestly the event might take precedence since I can farm pseudo armors in the form of event plats. I really need healers anyways. So far I can clear Golden Armor X which is nice, but I'm still stuck on Spirit Rescue H and A Toast to Men H so they might determine who is next. Once I can clear Base Scramble II I think I'll have a much better idea which direction I will need to go for my team. I REALLY want to be farming Spirit Rescue X though so I'll need to find out how to clear that without Awakening Jerome. 9/10 Sophie really is very taunting.

Off Topic, ignore it if you want on topic dont waste your time

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Originally Posted by lolix

i've done that map without silver cr-ed archers , on my non nanaly acount without a cr-ed spica or shao btw.

A map can be done in different ways , u know

Guess i have to be a total idiot or a brickwall up my face then if i had the option to beat the map all the time befor my nose and still couldnt do it with what i had. Must be my pure stupidity that 5-10 tries didnt work out whatever strategie i used because UP didnt magicaly change. But i guess my argument is invalid just because u had the luck to get around the need of cring units and my experiences that cr units can save your ass many times or even make or break a map have been completly wrong. At least thats what u repeat over and over and nothing else you contribute. With the units given the standart nutaku guides give though theres no way to do it without an cred silver (cred archer) and theres no event unit or fency aw passiv whatsoever that i couldve traded in to make it work at that time. Show me a way to do the map with these units without having any cred pre patch, i crave to see it. Btw. i had my spica at non cc lvl 50 at that time cause it took 3 months for an event to appear where i could farm silver archers again (Memento says hi). Just having an AW spica with her AW passive could be potentialy making up enough for its 2 more UP so the combined incresed ATK of bashira and her take down the valk so it cant attack long enough to kill the prince while units like non AWed Shao or silvers cant do that. Sorry. I just cant take your "I did it duh" without any informations and say "oh all my experiences been wrong dude". Sorry for my tone but you kinda offend me even if you dont intend too, i count myself having enough selfawarness that i dont tell lies about what i experienced not even without knowing.

My Prince was between level 130-140 when i was doing the map for the first times so i doubt his level was too low. I started right befor the Shuka event so i got Shao not max cost reduced only at 13 UP. 1!! Unit Point too much. (Remember again it was 1 UP that was making or breaking the map for me which is my whole point for cring over saving for some fancy maybe some day appearing rainbow currency for which we still have "years" to gather fodders for)

You can use this Guide. You can replace Leeanne (or bernice in your case) with sherry. Sherry shreds through these silver wolves like through butter its crazy. U can also replace Khuri with Bashira or Spica on high lvl. Even though i would recommend you to have an Khrui around if u dont have any other VH.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7CwhsidUAw

I pretty much used this on my non nanaly acount. I just used a normal daniela instead of a cr-ed one and a silver healer instead of the iris. (same UP cost in total ).Also u start bashiras skill after the first rogue dies (or when its close to die) . SO tell me more how its impossible to do it without a cr silver archer , when ive literally done it without.


Just because you fucked up your deploy order or whatever , it doesnt mean that everyone would. And no , i didnt taken it personal , but i get the thing that youre doing it , which you shouldnt , because its not