Thread: Should I skip Emilia's event?

Not sure about others, but I'm basically never using Valks for their UP generation expect during the Subjugation map. I use it as more of a poor man's princess to tank out magic hits. Having this unit around would've made many lich maps a lot easier if you didn't already have a princess. As pointed out, 40 sec is a long time to have stats that high on a gold lvl deployment so I'll be using her as another MR tank and probably replaces Elaine and/or Kerry on most deployments. I probably wouldn't be as stoked if I already had Clissa or Thetis and 3 MR tanks even for the cheap cost.

Eh, let's just compare them side by side then)

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┌───────────┬──────┬─────┬─────┐
│ Character │  HP  │ Atk │ Def │
╞═══════════╪══════╪═════╪═════╡
│ CC Kerry  │ 1948 │ 409 │ 315 │
├───────────┼──────┼─────┼─────┤
│ CC Emilia │ 1947 │ 403 │ 282 │
├───────────┼──────┼─────┼─────┤
│ AW Kerry  │ 2489 │ 677 │ 371 │
├───────────┼──────┼─────┼─────┤
│ AW Emilia │ 2445 │ 482 │ 330 │
└───────────┴──────┴─────┴─────┘

Skills (max level):
Kerry : x1.8 attack for 35s, initial wait is 17s
Emilia: x2 attack & defense for 40s, initial wait 12.5s

Awakening abilities:
Kerry : ATK increases by 35%, speed decreases by ~20% (already calculated in the table above)
Emilia: 15% chance for damage nullification.

SAWs:
Kerry : charge-up once (0.5x attack for 20s + 15s downtime) then 2.2x attack and 1.6x defense, 2xUP gain on kills, regen 8 HP/0.5s, for 30 seconds
Emilia: x2 attack & defense for 40s, 2xUP gain on kills, regen 10 HP/0.5s, initial wait 15s

Lessee...
At CCmax level they are dead even as lightning rods, ramps/anti-rushes (both not so hot), Kerry edges out (a bit) as a ganker due to her higher innate defense, Emilia will be better as a duelist if you can drop her in advance. Emilia should be cheaper to deploy
At AWmax level Kerry(!) is a better duelist, Emilia should be able to beat Kerry as ramp/anti-rush (speed is a big deal for that, and Emilia's skill will be ready way sooner, but once again, it can go both ways, as Kerry should be able to normally oneshot things that Emilia cannot) and if Goddess smiles upon you, be better lightning rod and tank with her damage nullification chance.

Elanie doesn't even compare. And premium valks blow both out of the water, as usual.

Looking at it, with max CR so she only costs 10 UP. She certainly has a role as an early ganker/UP generator vs fast ground units. Plus you get more points back when she's withdrawn. Or you can drop a soldier/archer if you have the time and UPs.

Not sure if I can be bothered leveling her or not. If I can get her to 10 UP deployment she's a handy tool in the arsenal for her cost.

Even though I have Thetis, Kerry (min-cost) and Dahlia for Valks and Sybilla, Olivie, Sherry and Sophie for lightning rods/duelists, I'm still going to go for min-cost event unit because, COME ON, WE FINALLY HAVE AN EVENT AGAIN, SO WHY NOT???

...Well, if you're busy leveling other units then there's a reason not to if you have better duelists like I do but meh, whatever, I'm just happy we'll have another event. At least get the SCs from the first few maps, and maybe one copy for harem completion purposes

If you have Kerry reduced I guess you don't need Emilia, but getting an event unit that can be max reduced relatively easily sounds enticing enough with those stats.

Definitely, if you don't have Kerry with any cost reductions, no MR duelists, or just all around lacking in your lineup then sure Emilia can be worthwhile, especially max reduced. If the loli valk is introduced though I say people should farm that second level and cost reduce her instead if all you want is a cheap solid valk that can generate some UP. Better duelists will come our way and two of them are superior valks.

Originally Posted by slyyr

Looking at it, with max CR so she only costs 10 UP.

Yeah, that's the primary draw far as vets are concerned. If you only care about killing liches regardless of UP cost then Claudia and Horace just aren't terribly impressed with what Kerry and Emilia can do. Where valks really shine is ramp and situations where cheap tank swaps are appreciated.

Originally Posted by kayfabe

Yeah, that's the primary draw far as vets are concerned. If you only care about killing liches regardless of UP cost then Claudia and Horace just aren't terribly impressed with what Kerry and Emilia can do. Where valks really shine is ramp and situations where cheap tank swaps are appreciated.

Yeah, obviously from a pure combat standpoint, Claudia mops the floor with Kerry and Emilia. Valkyries exist for UP ramp, minor lightning rods, and cheap, easily replaceable duelists, either because you're swapping out lightning rods or dealing with rushes too early for some heavier units to be deployed without screwing your other deployments due to UP cost.


By the way, question for the veterans here: If I were to raise one Valkyrie, would you recommend Dahlia, Emilia, min-cost Kerry or -1 Thetis? Thetis' AW is niche, but very useful within that niche, Kerry is min-costed which is nice but not sure about slowing attack for sake of power, Dahlia gives Valks +7% attack which is tempting indeed, and Emilia, not sure what her ability is. Or would you recommend both Dahlia and Thetis? I guess a priority list would be better than just "keep one, bench the others" since I'll eventually be able to level them all, I've got my main team all AW and several backups as well.

I have -1 cr kerry now with todays pull should i need 2nd valkyrie? Last subjugation map needed 2 valkyries but i do have a Julian too, so what'd you guys suggest for me. Well like others said we farm last event map anyway for silvers but the main question is focus on emilia or not after event?

(and off-topic question: anybody here actually using victoria? I have both spica and -1 cr bashira)

Originally Posted by ramazan

I have -1 cr kerry now with todays pull should i need 2nd valkyrie? Last subjugation map needed 2 valkyries but i do have a Julian too, so what'd you guys suggest for me. Well like others said we farm last event map anyway for silvers but the main question is focus on emilia or not after event?

(and off-topic question: anybody here actually using victoria? I have both spica and -1 cr bashira)

I doubt having a second Valkyrie would HURT lol, though prioritizing depends on where your other units stand.

As for Victoria versus Spica versus Bashira, Victoria loses out most of the time (Spica u want for the AW bonus, extends her range and attack for a VERY long time, and is easier to CR since she comes with -1 built-in and is guaranteed access via TP, plus she has Skill UP fodder in the silver Lauren; against Bashira, enemies need to have really high defense for Victoria to beat Bashira in damage, or she has to be attacking for the majority of her much longer lasting skill). In the end, they fill different niches. Bashira is burst, Victoria is sustained damage and Spica is sustained damage that trades some power for more range.