Thread: Is it time to riot?

Originally Posted by Sasha

You sound like the fanboy straight after swapping to another version of Aigis.

This what i've felt too.
I've been in dmm aigis discussions or in chat rooms for some time, never heard one guy complaining about something, they always discuss about in-game stuff, debate over them, not any chat about dev or promises or something like that. Ofc he is right to not to give a damn, i would do the same because you're comfortable with where you at after all. I can easily say, especially after damn S-Legend stamp card shit and many players started playing dmm after seeing failures of nutaku (we cant be certain if its nutakus failure or not, but people see it that way already) i guess dmm found the potential money on our community and wants to control it instead giving it away to some publisher despite how they will bother themselves providing us same old style content...

Originally Posted by Sasha

Yes thats exactly what I said, but how in the hell am I defending Nutaku?
Just because I tell you to watch out for for the devs doesn't mean I am defending Nutaku, on the other hand you are acting like DMM and the devs can do you no wrong.

You sound like the fanboy straight after swapping to another version of Aigis.

I just gave the direct opposite opinion to your point and you agreed with it as if It was your point all along. haHA.
The moment when you are so cucked, you don't even realize what other people are saying.

What i am advocating is the FREEDOM to pick what game you want to play, and EXPERIENCING both platforms FOR FREE before giving judgement.
What you are supporting is a trumpian view, BUILD A WALL. DONT LET ANYONE CROSS THE OTHER SIDE AND SPEND MONEY. THOSE AIGIS DEVS ARE MURDERERS AND RAPISTS THAT WILL JUST TAKE YOUR MONEY AND DUMP YOUR CORPSE.

Sure you talk as if you don't support nutaku yet you are doing EXACTLY what they say, "hey I cant do xxx, because jap devs. *hint*Go pitchfork them* "
Classic definition of clucked.

Really, this thread is just exposing all the bitter whales that spent too much time/money and aren't willing to try something new that is FREE AND DON'T HAVE A GOOD REASON FOR IT.
I don't even like the aigis devs (they dont speak my language and the english ver sucks) but when the game is good, I call it as it is. I am not going to deny myself a BETTER EXPERIENCE because you are all bitter.
"Going to DMM is going to kill nutaku". Such BULLSHIT, why cant you play BOTH? Why can't you play FREE games without paying?

AND even if i spend money, WHY is it I have support the company that has only disappointed? Do you THINK I wanna put in so much effort to play a game in a language i dont speak? DUDE, EVERYONE THAT PLAYS DMM was JUST LIKE YOU. I just highly doubt that the english version will be as enjoyable in the near future.

I play both FKG on nutaku and DMM with equal enjoyment. And i hope Aigis can do something similar but clearly there are some complicated issues going behind which according to nutaku isn't going to be fixed anytime soon. At least my "freedom of choice" allows me to play what I enjoy while the rest of you bitter whales sulk. haHA.

Buttlover, you are becoming quite toxic. Why not tone it down a bit? It's good to disagree but toxicity shows immaturity.
I've accounts on both versions and I'm a fluent Japanese speaker as I used to be a fansub translator over a decade ago, yet I enjoy the Nutaku version more as it's not as overwhelming for new players as DMM aigis is.
From where I stand, both parties are at fault here. DMM for their greed which Japanese devs are quite infamous for and Nutaku for their ineptitude. There's no reason to begin flaming each other.

Originally Posted by SabishiiRyuu

Buttlover, you are becoming quite toxic. Why not tone it down a bit? It's good to disagree but toxicity shows immaturity.
I've accounts on both versions and I'm a fluent Japanese speaker as I used to be a fansub translator over a decade ago, yet I enjoy the Nutaku version more as it's not as overwhelming for new players as DMM aigis is.
From where I stand, both parties are at fault here. DMM for their greed which Japanese devs are quite infamous for and Nutaku for their ineptitude. There's no reason to begin flaming each other.

Valid points mate, you are right there. On general, most aigis related conversations are logical and informative, like how ramazan pointed out. We want information to improve our gameplay.

Sadly logic doesn't apply to everyone, much less this particular thread. I am merely adapting my replies to suit their emotional packed responses. Sometimes to get a point across, you have to be machiavellian. Having to reply against the tidal wave of ridiculous assumptions haven't made it easier.

But it is entertaining to read the constant irrational hatred over good content when that is what they actually seek, just delivered in different medium.
I have to agree on the advantages of having the nutaku version, I probably wouldn't have played if I was suddenly given the DMM version at the start.
Too much things at once, to the point of feeling crushed.

Although most long time users are seeking for that kind of content now.

I agree that nutaku is not without fault in this matter, but it doesn't change the fact that the devs are with them at major fault.
And buttlover your posts sound like we all still spend money after that anouncement by nutaku. Many players, me included, are stopping to buy anything for Aigis until we see a major advancement in Aigis(like TP rotation)/ongoing regular events.
And yes I could start dmm aigis only with my knowledge from nutaku and by google translating everything, but it is too much time consuming and somewhat stressfull. I play those games for enjoyment in between my free time and would rather like to know what happens in a fast way, because I'm somewhat a rpg guy but also busy.

Buttlover, I agree with previous statements that your comments have been toxic, but I don't recall anyone saying that you weren't entitled to your opinion. If you enjoy playing on the DMM site, by all means go ahead. I have spent money on the Nutaku version largely because I have no interest in playing a game when I can't understand the language. For some people a game is more than just the mechanics and if you don't have the time/desire/ability to research the text to understand new units and abilities then the gameplay isn't enough of a draw to another platform. Enjoy the game on DMM, I for one though won't play on that site and instead will spend the money I would have spent on Nutaku on other games.

Oh, and just for reference being a troll (let's be honest, that is all you are doing here) does not mean you are being Machiavellian.

Originally Posted by buttlover

I just gave the direct opposite opinion to your point and you agreed with it as if It was your point all along. haHA.
The moment when you are so cucked, you don't even realize what other people are saying.

What i am advocating is the FREEDOM to pick what game you want to play, and EXPERIENCING both platforms FOR FREE before giving judgement.
What you are supporting is a trumpian view, BUILD A WALL. DONT LET ANYONE CROSS THE OTHER SIDE AND SPEND MONEY. THOSE AIGIS DEVS ARE MURDERERS AND RAPISTS THAT WILL JUST TAKE YOUR MONEY AND DUMP YOUR CORPSE.

Sure you talk as if you don't support nutaku yet you are doing EXACTLY what they say, "hey I cant do xxx, because jap devs. *hint*Go pitchfork them* "
Classic definition of clucked.

Really, this thread is just exposing all the bitter whales that spent too much time/money and aren't willing to try something new that is FREE AND DON'T HAVE A GOOD REASON FOR IT.
I don't even like the aigis devs (they dont speak my language and the english ver sucks) but when the game is good, I call it as it is. I am not going to deny myself a BETTER EXPERIENCE because you are all bitter.
"Going to DMM is going to kill nutaku". Such BULLSHIT, why cant you play BOTH? Why can't you play FREE games without paying?

AND even if i spend money, WHY is it I have support the company that has only disappointed? Do you THINK I wanna put in so much effort to play a game in a language i dont speak? DUDE, EVERYONE THAT PLAYS DMM was JUST LIKE YOU. I just highly doubt that the english version will be as enjoyable in the near future.

I play both FKG on nutaku and DMM with equal enjoyment. And i hope Aigis can do something similar but clearly there are some complicated issues going behind which according to nutaku isn't going to be fixed anytime soon. At least my "freedom of choice" allows me to play what I enjoy while the rest of you bitter whales sulk. haHA.

You really have no reading comprehension, I recommended playing on DMM in my first post in here but watch out since people've already been burnt once by these people and you believe I was arguing the opposite or that I changed what I was saying in the 2nd post.
I have not mentioned what I think of Nutaku which is in no way nice but wrongly you believe I'm defending them.
Do not forget the devs past, or it'll come back and bite you in the arse.

Playing on DMM won't kill Nutaku as they would have died long ago if no content meant a lack of spending but playing on Nutaku is probably going to end up badly for whoever does it, not the companys themselves.

Originally Posted by Sasha

You really have no reading comprehension, I recommended playing on DMM in my first post in here but watch out since people've already been burnt once by these people and you believe I was arguing the opposite or that I changed what I was saying in the 2nd post.
I have not mentioned what I think of Nutaku which is in no way nice but wrongly you believe I'm defending them.
Do not forget the devs past, or it'll come back and bite you in the arse.

Playing on DMM won't kill Nutaku as they would have died long ago if no content meant a lack of spending but playing on Nutaku is probably going to end up badly for whoever does it, not the companys themselves.

While i don't agree with buttlover's harsh perspective. He does make valid points, no harm trying something new that is free.

Sorry Sasha, your first post does seems to read as you warning people not to try out the dmm version because that is cuddling up to them.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

While i don't agree with buttlover's harsh perspective. He does make valid points, no harm trying something new that is free.

Sorry Sasha, your first post does seems to read as you warning people not to try out the dmm version because that is cuddling up to them.

I realized that the post was too much warning as I typed it, so I put "I am in no way saying don't swap" to counter it all which also means "Do swap but take into account what was said". Not everything needs to be 100% pro DMM, no company can get everything right.

All I can hope for at this point is for the Nutaku version to not take a whole year to catch up to DMM. DMM version at the moment looks beautiful but my DMM account is so much further behind my Nutaku account that it really offsets my morale when playing it. Granted, DMM shits out SC and I already have more Plat/Black premium AND event units than my Nutaku account, but I never seem to have time to level/awaken them...

It would be great if I could encounter these same "problems" on the Nutaku side. I was hoping for a huge stream of events after Nutaku devs took over but I guess that dream can rest in peace now.