Much as I loath to make a thread about only this, but... Awakening opinions?

[Nero010]

I'd take Victoria's AW ability over Bashira's since those goblin archers can be tanked by way more units than liches can. Defense is easy to find, MR not so much. Sure, liches are way rarer than goblin archers and the like, but they also tend to be harder to deal with (if you don't have Sophie, Sybilla, Clissa, etc. then you often end up swapping lightning rods; black goblin archers hit hard sure, but drop a mage then Gellius/Bernice with heal support and they'll melt easily enough).

TLDR: Bernice is a common enough unit that can tank Goblin Archers (even black ones with skill) while most of the units necessary to lightning rod multiple liches are Black rarity, or at least platinum, but it all depends on team availability. Bashira's skill blows away Victoria's most of the time though, so there's that.

Funny is that it took me 5-6 months and 150€ to get one bernice while the OP doesnt even own her. Its ok to have an opinion but dont generalize - for some Bashiras AW is a lot more usefull then Victorias regardles. Its ways to situational for both.

[MalusCorvus]

Well, the simplest reason for not Awakening Bernice or Spica is that I don't have them. Reason I didn't get Spica from trading post is that... 1, I had several archers already; 2, I got Saki once and regretted that for a long time (though eventually I decided it'd be better to level her than Azami), and 3, I've been using my Demon Crystals for other things. Well, largely - I'm about to reach 300, but that still means I either get Spica or 2 Awakening spirits. Although I'll probably get Spica - if I Awaken more than one unit at the same time they'll be competing for EXP fodder, and at least while I wait for fodder I can give affection gifts to Spica.

Also, I too wasn't impressed with Bashira's Awakened ability. Largely I hadn't Awakened her because I like Rita more from a character perspective, and Bashira is still pretty powerful despite being CC-70 compared to Rita's AW-75 as of this posting. Arguably I might never need to Awaken her.

[lolix]

pretty sure i was the one that told u to ignore saki for a long time and get spica first. SPica is the first unit u should ever get from TP. She is a very good unit , with a very good skill , and a very good passive.

Shes my second msot used archer after nanaly , and i have a cc70 bashira and a rita as well. She becomes even better when u have nanaly after u awaken spica for the simple fact that she gives nanaly 28% more damage per each voley , literally making her quadra shot a , penta shot. She also gives 21% more damage per voley to bashira which is also really damn good.

Also her skill is pretty nice to have if maxed.

[buttlover]

Well, the simplest reason for not Awakening Bernice or Spica is that I don't have them. Reason I didn't get Spica from trading post is that... 1, I had several archers already; 2, I got Saki once and regretted that for a long time (though eventually I decided it'd be better to level her than Azami), and 3, I've been using my Demon Crystals for other things. Well, largely - I'm about to reach 300, but that still means I either get Spica or 2 Awakening spirits. Although I'll probably get Spica - if I Awaken more than one unit at the same time they'll be competing for EXP fodder, and at least while I wait for fodder I can give affection gifts to Spica.

Also, I too wasn't impressed with Bashira's Awakened ability. Largely I hadn't Awakened her because I like Rita more from a character perspective, and Bashira is still pretty powerful despite being CC-70 compared to Rita's AW-75 as of this posting. Arguably I might never need to Awaken her.

True, Bashira's AW priority on the AW list isn't high until the SAW(Skill AWakening) comes out. Hopefully you'll get get good HA to AW once you are done with spica. Don't forget belinda is another good AW target too, she has the same AW buff as spica except for mages.

[Unregistered]

for witches* not mages.

[lolix]

True, Bashira's AW priority on the AW list isn't high until the SAW(Skill AWakening) comes out. Hopefully you'll get get good HA to AW once you are done with spica. Don't forget belinda is another good AW target too, she has the same AW buff as spica except for mages.

except for witches you mean. Garania has that for mages

[MalusCorvus]

except for witches you mean. Garania has that for mages

I don't really care for witches that much, though. Maybe this changes on AW, but the slowdown effect is negligible so their only real use to me is as cheap magic damage. As a result I've thus far been fine with just Cloris, although I'll check out Belinda.

Fair enough except... when are you EVER going to throw down ANY archer and leave her vulnerable to targeted fire?

I do, if the archer's name is "Rita."

Everybody talking about power, damage, usefullness stuff but no harem collection. Even for that i'd get all tp units. And i wanted to add spica aw to +1, without her spirit rescue X can be a mess with just other units, dunno if your aw rita can one-shot them tho.
Well most ppl already explained the stuff, i just wanted to point a different thing.

Oh, Rita does indeed wreak havoc on flyers. Even the red gargoyles/flyers/whatever go down in seconds. Of course, I don't even use her for Spirit Rescue X, I use Bashira.

[lolix]

you should definetly get spica. Seriously , shes a powerhouse , and im saying that as someone that has all the archers you have + nanaly

rita has at max lvl (awakened) 532 attack and a defensive skill.
Bashira has 559 and triple shot
Nanaly has 627 and quadra shot
Spica has 589 and excelent shot +7% extra damage from passive (which will increase the damage to your other archers as well )
Victoria has 550 and increase attack


As you can see , she has the highest base damage out of all archers that are not nanaly. Besides that , she also has increased attack speed (5%) over other archers because shes an elf and after aw the 7% damage buff as well

Her skill is also really good , for the simple fact that it gives her both damage and range and lasts a whole lot
Besides that spica starts at cr1 compared to all other plat archers

[buttlover]

I don't really care for witches that much, though. Maybe this changes on AW, but the slowdown effect is negligible so their only real use to me is as cheap magic damage. As a result I've thus far been fine with just Cloris, although I'll check out Belinda.



I do, if the archer's name is "Rita."



Oh, Rita does indeed wreak havoc on flyers. Even the red gargoyles/flyers/whatever go down in seconds. Of course, I don't even use her for Spirit Rescue X, I use Bashira.

Fair point, rita's shadow passive is really useful in many situations that would kill the other archers. For that, they over nerfed her dmg sadly. She still does dmg comparable to gold archers so at least that works. Waiting for that rebalance buff that would break the game and I'll use her for all my adventures! Until then... ヽ( ಥ﹏ಥ)ﾉ

I am really surprised how you managed to clear some maps without at least 2 decent witches. It seems like a requirement on some maps. Well i guess having multiple blacks is black magic!

[slyyr]

I generally go by if its part of my core team it will be awakened eventually. Depending on resources I just go with what I can do first. With RNG sometimes thats the best way to go.