Much as I loath to make a thread about only this, but... Awakening opinions?

[Eab1990]

But it is really subjective, for example bashira's AW ability sucks. So she is almost always last to AW unless you have no options for archers.

Nah, Victoria's AW ability sucks.

AW Bashira is good for those times you need to get rid of pesky black goblin archers and the like.

It's less useful if you have to deal with lichs or other ranged bosses when there are other enemies she needs to focus on instead. Memento's maps screwed me up a bit thanks to that.

[lolix]

as others said , spica is a high priority aw unit. For most of us , spica was the first unit to awaken for the simlple fact that archers are just so general use.


Other then that , im lazy to look at your team comp , but as a general rule of thumb , going for units that increase the drop rates or buff other units is a good ideea. So stuff like bernice , katie , spica , uzume , aria , monica , cuterie , celia were stuff that were really high on my personal aw list because they have the best utility. OFC awakening stuff like iris or camilla or whatever other healer u have there is also great.


Other then that , just go for what u like more , and for what u use more

[kayfabe]

[Anyway, Elva and Momiji are both decent targets with that army comp. They're obviously not as tough as an SU'd Bernice or a Gellius but they can squeak by on most maps just fine with careful deployment. Just be careful with Awakened Momiji--she's not fragile, exactly, but there's still plenty of waves you won't want to 3 block for long without having a survival skill of some sort. Which, incidentally, may be the single best argument against Awakening Garrett--he's cheap and tougher than people often give him credit for, but it's really easy for 4 blocking to get him in over his head.

[IvanLedah21]

Nah, Victoria's AW ability sucks.

AW Bashira is good for those times you need to get rid of pesky black goblin archers and the like.

It's less useful if you have to deal with lichs or other ranged bosses when there are other enemies she needs to focus on instead. Memento's maps screwed me up a bit thanks to that.

I'd take Victoria's AW ability over Bashira's since those goblin archers can be tanked by way more units than liches can. Defense is easy to find, MR not so much. Sure, liches are way rarer than goblin archers and the like, but they also tend to be harder to deal with (if you don't have Sophie, Sybilla, Clissa, etc. then you often end up swapping lightning rods; black goblin archers hit hard sure, but drop a mage then Gellius/Bernice with heal support and they'll melt easily enough).

TLDR: Bernice is a common enough unit that can tank Goblin Archers (even black ones with skill) while most of the units necessary to lightning rod multiple liches are Black rarity, or at least platinum, but it all depends on team availability. Bashira's skill blows away Victoria's most of the time though, so there's that.

[Nero010]

I'd take Victoria's AW ability over Bashira's since those goblin archers can be tanked by way more units than liches can. Defense is easy to find, MR not so much. Sure, liches are way rarer than goblin archers and the like, but they also tend to be harder to deal with (if you don't have Sophie, Sybilla, Clissa, etc. then you often end up swapping lightning rods; black goblin archers hit hard sure, but drop a mage then Gellius/Bernice with heal support and they'll melt easily enough).

TLDR: Bernice is a common enough unit that can tank Goblin Archers (even black ones with skill) while most of the units necessary to lightning rod multiple liches are Black rarity, or at least platinum, but it all depends on team availability. Bashira's skill blows away Victoria's most of the time though, so there's that.

Funny is that it took me 5-6 months and 150€ to get one bernice while the OP doesnt even own her. Its ok to have an opinion but dont generalize - for some Bashiras AW is a lot more usefull then Victorias regardles. Its ways to situational for both.

[MalusCorvus]

Well, the simplest reason for not Awakening Bernice or Spica is that I don't have them. Reason I didn't get Spica from trading post is that... 1, I had several archers already; 2, I got Saki once and regretted that for a long time (though eventually I decided it'd be better to level her than Azami), and 3, I've been using my Demon Crystals for other things. Well, largely - I'm about to reach 300, but that still means I either get Spica or 2 Awakening spirits. Although I'll probably get Spica - if I Awaken more than one unit at the same time they'll be competing for EXP fodder, and at least while I wait for fodder I can give affection gifts to Spica.

Also, I too wasn't impressed with Bashira's Awakened ability. Largely I hadn't Awakened her because I like Rita more from a character perspective, and Bashira is still pretty powerful despite being CC-70 compared to Rita's AW-75 as of this posting. Arguably I might never need to Awaken her.

[lolix]

pretty sure i was the one that told u to ignore saki for a long time and get spica first. SPica is the first unit u should ever get from TP. She is a very good unit , with a very good skill , and a very good passive.

Shes my second msot used archer after nanaly , and i have a cc70 bashira and a rita as well. She becomes even better when u have nanaly after u awaken spica for the simple fact that she gives nanaly 28% more damage per each voley , literally making her quadra shot a , penta shot. She also gives 21% more damage per voley to bashira which is also really damn good.

Also her skill is pretty nice to have if maxed.

[buttlover]

Well, the simplest reason for not Awakening Bernice or Spica is that I don't have them. Reason I didn't get Spica from trading post is that... 1, I had several archers already; 2, I got Saki once and regretted that for a long time (though eventually I decided it'd be better to level her than Azami), and 3, I've been using my Demon Crystals for other things. Well, largely - I'm about to reach 300, but that still means I either get Spica or 2 Awakening spirits. Although I'll probably get Spica - if I Awaken more than one unit at the same time they'll be competing for EXP fodder, and at least while I wait for fodder I can give affection gifts to Spica.

Also, I too wasn't impressed with Bashira's Awakened ability. Largely I hadn't Awakened her because I like Rita more from a character perspective, and Bashira is still pretty powerful despite being CC-70 compared to Rita's AW-75 as of this posting. Arguably I might never need to Awaken her.

True, Bashira's AW priority on the AW list isn't high until the SAW(Skill AWakening) comes out. Hopefully you'll get get good HA to AW once you are done with spica. Don't forget belinda is another good AW target too, she has the same AW buff as spica except for mages.

[Unregistered]

for witches* not mages.

[lolix]

True, Bashira's AW priority on the AW list isn't high until the SAW(Skill AWakening) comes out. Hopefully you'll get get good HA to AW once you are done with spica. Don't forget belinda is another good AW target too, she has the same AW buff as spica except for mages.

except for witches you mean. Garania has that for mages