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    Much as I loath to make a thread about only this, but... Awakening opinions?

    So, I've been holding off on Awakening any units for a while, with the result that I have nearly 300 Demon Crystals and a lot of silver units, so material is no option. There are quite a few units I have that I could Awaken if I so pleased, but left to my own devices I'd just Awaken the ones I think are cool, with no regard to usefulness... so, I thought I'd get a second opinion!

    First, units I've already Awakened: Katie, Rita, Sybilla, and Liana.

    Second, the tally of the units I could awaken now or soon, in order of UP cost: Waltz, Cuterie, Cypria, Kerry, Cloris, Bashira, Vincent, Iris, Saki, Beatrice, Momiji, Garrett, Elva, Zola, Cyrus, Mehlis, and Sasha.

    Third, the ones I'd really like to Awaken at some point. I've been angling to Awaken Momiji for some time, because the thought of blocking 3 units at once, with Strength of the Fierce God active (and because of Liana's skill, I suspect I use Momiji more than a lot of others do), is quite entertaining. On the tank front, however, I am tempted to Awaken Garrett, largely because he's the only heavy infantry unit of Gold rank or higher than I have, although from what I can tell Elva and Dark Knights in general serve a similar niche albeit more focused on offensive power, and Elva's a unit I want to be useful. Other than one of those three I don't really have a preference, although I'm oddly inclined to Awaken Vincent (mostly because I was lucky, or unlucky, enough to get a second copy of him), or Mehlis.

    Since I generally Awaken units because I think it'd be neat rather than for practical purposes, at least when left to myself, I thought I'd get some advice before I make too egregious an error. ...And yes, I have a feeling someone's going to recommend Awakening Bashira. Consider it noted.


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    Me personally I have been awakening core units first such as Katie, Iris, Spica and I also have Bernice awakened. So that covers Healer, Duelist, archer and Heavy Armor basically the core of an army.

    The rest I am awakening to branch out to other areas and get stronger duelists like My Sybilla I recently Awakened and next will be Saki and Rachel. The things is I plan to Awaken as many units as I can as I play Aigis but I am choosing who I like and will benefit my team to my needs. Other may have ideas on who you should awaken but I am sure that you may have your own style in playing and it does sound like that from the way you use Momiji and Liana.

    If I where you I would be thinking what does my core awakened team lack and looks like a good heavy armor, so maybe Garrett would be your next best unit? Not only is a good Heavy Armor needed for some maps and events but being male he can be used for Male only events too.

    Do you have Spica? Bashira is indeed a good unit and does pack some good DPS but Spica is also a worthy investment to get and AW and if we get good constant updates may soon leave the trading post as I hear Plat units are usually the ones to get swapped around (if they ever do this).

    These are just my thought, best of luck with your awakening!!
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    Definitely Iris. (blah blah Nutaku Liana a shit)

    After that, Bashira (she can be useful, dammit), then Cloris or Vincent or maybe Saki.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalusCorvus View Post
    So, I've been holding off on Awakening any units for a while, with the result that I have nearly 300 Demon Crystals and a lot of silver units, so material is no option. There are quite a few units I have that I could Awaken if I so pleased, but left to my own devices I'd just Awaken the ones I think are cool, with no regard to usefulness... so, I thought I'd get a second opinion!

    First, units I've already Awakened: Katie, Rita, Sybilla, and Liana.

    Second, the tally of the units I could awaken now or soon, in order of UP cost: Waltz, Cuterie, Cypria, Kerry, Cloris, Bashira, Vincent, Iris, Saki, Beatrice, Momiji, Garrett, Elva, Zola, Cyrus, Mehlis, and Sasha.

    Third, the ones I'd really like to Awaken at some point. I've been angling to Awaken Momiji for some time, because the thought of blocking 3 units at once, with Strength of the Fierce God active (and because of Liana's skill, I suspect I use Momiji more than a lot of others do), is quite entertaining. On the tank front, however, I am tempted to Awaken Garrett, largely because he's the only heavy infantry unit of Gold rank or higher than I have, although from what I can tell Elva and Dark Knights in general serve a similar niche albeit more focused on offensive power, and Elva's a unit I want to be useful. Other than one of those three I don't really have a preference, although I'm oddly inclined to Awaken Vincent (mostly because I was lucky, or unlucky, enough to get a second copy of him), or Mehlis.

    Since I generally Awaken units because I think it'd be neat rather than for practical purposes, at least when left to myself, I thought I'd get some advice before I make too egregious an error. ...And yes, I have a feeling someone's going to recommend Awakening Bashira. Consider it noted.
    Since you AW-ed 1 physical dps, 1 soldier, 1 duelist and healer, the next should be a witch/mage.
    But it is really subjective, for example bashira's AW ability sucks. So she is almost always last to AW unless you have no options for archers.

    Easy AW targets should be cuterie (if you need aff items if not ignore) and iris.

    I am surprised you have sybilla and liana but not bernice or spica in your list of AW targets.
    Spica boosts the dmg of rita+bashira once you AW her.
    Bernice is a great cheap HA that can pretty much cover you for 99% of the maps.

    I would suggest your priority to be iris -> cuterie (if you need aff) -> belinda (current event) -> spica/sasha/waltz -> saki/vincent (the rest are meh, can do it slowly)
    Depending on who you often use in your core team. If you have a good HA, I'll AW her before spica/sasha/waltz

    DISCLAIMER: You can choose to AW any girl you like, whether for art or if she is your personal waifu. The advice I offer is purely in terms of overall power. Eg, I would prefer for archers - nanaly > spica > bashira > rita. That is the ranking power/usefulness wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MalusCorvus View Post
    So, I've been holding off on Awakening any units for a while, with the result that I have nearly 300 Demon Crystals and a lot of silver units, so material is no option. There are quite a few units I have that I could Awaken if I so pleased, but left to my own devices I'd just Awaken the ones I think are cool, with no regard to usefulness... so, I thought I'd get a second opinion!

    First, units I've already Awakened: Katie, Rita, Sybilla, and Liana.

    Second, the tally of the units I could awaken now or soon, in order of UP cost: Waltz, Cuterie, Cypria, Kerry, Cloris, Bashira, Vincent, Iris, Saki, Beatrice, Momiji, Garrett, Elva, Zola, Cyrus, Mehlis, and Sasha.

    Third, the ones I'd really like to Awaken at some point. I've been angling to Awaken Momiji for some time, because the thought of blocking 3 units at once, with Strength of the Fierce God active (and because of Liana's skill, I suspect I use Momiji more than a lot of others do), is quite entertaining. On the tank front, however, I am tempted to Awaken Garrett, largely because he's the only heavy infantry unit of Gold rank or higher than I have, although from what I can tell Elva and Dark Knights in general serve a similar niche albeit more focused on offensive power, and Elva's a unit I want to be useful. Other than one of those three I don't really have a preference, although I'm oddly inclined to Awaken Vincent (mostly because I was lucky, or unlucky, enough to get a second copy of him), or Mehlis.

    Since I generally Awaken units because I think it'd be neat rather than for practical purposes, at least when left to myself, I thought I'd get some advice before I make too egregious an error. ...And yes, I have a feeling someone's going to recommend Awakening Bashira. Consider it noted.
    You don't have Bernice, huh? Garret is meh, IMO so you might want Elva despite the cost since she's superior to your only Gold+ Heavy Garret.

    Agreed with Buttlover, WHERE ON THAT LIST IS SPICA???

    ....

    Anyways, my recommended order:
    Spica >> Iris > Cuterie (if gifts are your thing, if not, disregard) > Elva >>> Sasha > Zola > Vincent > Saki >>> Mehlis > Momiji > Beatrice
    The rest aren't worth the fodder IMO, except maybe Waltz and Kerry. Cypria isn't a full-time duelist, she's dropped specifically for Assassinate gambling 90% of the time she's used, Cloris has assassinate, a RNG based ability, Garret is outclassed by Elva and you shouldn't need another defensive unit besides Leanne, Cyrus is outclassed by Sasha and Zola and I prefer Mehlis' AW ability.

    Reasoning for the recommended:
    Spica: No-brainer, powering up herself, Bashira and Rita YES YES YES
    Iris: Stronger healer, much more cost-effective than Liana? Yes please.
    Cuterie: gift farming, 'nuff said
    Elva: To be your 2ndary blocker, bulky dps ftw
    Sasha: Because who doesn't like faster attacks from the mage with the highest raw power of the platinums?
    Zola: -10 range to attack faster, plus she's cheaper than Sasha or even Mehlis/Cyrus and very helpful in Crystal Keeper
    Vincent: decent AW ability, very useful for ripping through undead when they come, the low Attack stat is deceptive as he always fires 3 shots
    Saki: ranged melee, black stats and 1 sec initial skill timer
    Mehlis: for when you want a cheaper, but weaker Sasha
    Momiji: decent duelist and her skill can either be gatekeeper or with Liana massive boost with little penalty
    Beatrice: decent ranged option but I'm not a fan of chance-based abilities (considering Sasha/Mehlis have basically the same thing but 100% instead of 20%, not much contest there)

    Waltz and Kerry are options if you use them a lot, otherwise I wouldn't bother. It is worth noting that Waltz will boost Vincent and skill-using Bashira/Elva through the roof on damage output.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttlover View Post
    But it is really subjective, for example bashira's AW ability sucks. So she is almost always last to AW unless you have no options for archers.
    Nah, Victoria's AW ability sucks.

    AW Bashira is good for those times you need to get rid of pesky black goblin archers and the like.

    It's less useful if you have to deal with lichs or other ranged bosses when there are other enemies she needs to focus on instead. Memento's maps screwed me up a bit thanks to that.

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    as others said , spica is a high priority aw unit. For most of us , spica was the first unit to awaken for the simlple fact that archers are just so general use.


    Other then that , im lazy to look at your team comp , but as a general rule of thumb , going for units that increase the drop rates or buff other units is a good ideea. So stuff like bernice , katie , spica , uzume , aria , monica , cuterie , celia were stuff that were really high on my personal aw list because they have the best utility. OFC awakening stuff like iris or camilla or whatever other healer u have there is also great.


    Other then that , just go for what u like more , and for what u use more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eab1990 View Post
    Nah, Victoria's AW ability sucks.

    AW Bashira is good for those times you need to get rid of pesky black goblin archers and the like.

    It's less useful if you have to deal with lichs or other ranged bosses when there are other enemies she needs to focus on instead. Memento's maps screwed me up a bit thanks to that.
    I'd take Victoria's AW ability over Bashira's since those goblin archers can be tanked by way more units than liches can. Defense is easy to find, MR not so much. Sure, liches are way rarer than goblin archers and the like, but they also tend to be harder to deal with (if you don't have Sophie, Sybilla, Clissa, etc. then you often end up swapping lightning rods; black goblin archers hit hard sure, but drop a mage then Gellius/Bernice with heal support and they'll melt easily enough).

    TLDR: Bernice is a common enough unit that can tank Goblin Archers (even black ones with skill) while most of the units necessary to lightning rod multiple liches are Black rarity, or at least platinum, but it all depends on team availability. Bashira's skill blows away Victoria's most of the time though, so there's that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanLedah21 View Post
    I'd take Victoria's AW ability over Bashira's since those goblin archers can be tanked by way more units than liches can. Defense is easy to find, MR not so much. Sure, liches are way rarer than goblin archers and the like, but they also tend to be harder to deal with (if you don't have Sophie, Sybilla, Clissa, etc. then you often end up swapping lightning rods; black goblin archers hit hard sure, but drop a mage then Gellius/Bernice with heal support and they'll melt easily enough).

    TLDR: Bernice is a common enough unit that can tank Goblin Archers (even black ones with skill) while most of the units necessary to lightning rod multiple liches are Black rarity, or at least platinum, but it all depends on team availability. Bashira's skill blows away Victoria's most of the time though, so there's that.
    Funny is that it took me 5-6 months and 150€ to get one bernice while the OP doesnt even own her. Its ok to have an opinion but dont generalize - for some Bashiras AW is a lot more usefull then Victorias regardles. Its ways to situational for both.

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    [Anyway, Elva and Momiji are both decent targets with that army comp. They're obviously not as tough as an SU'd Bernice or a Gellius but they can squeak by on most maps just fine with careful deployment. Just be careful with Awakened Momiji--she's not fragile, exactly, but there's still plenty of waves you won't want to 3 block for long without having a survival skill of some sort. Which, incidentally, may be the single best argument against Awakening Garrett--he's cheap and tougher than people often give him credit for, but it's really easy for 4 blocking to get him in over his head.

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