Thread: Hey There new Player looking for advice

Hey There im a new player, I started when the event of Lolonee was ending so im not that strong and I would like to ask for advice on how to lvl/CC my units (with my current team I keep loosing the 4th battle of the ongoing event "Ruined City") Im lvl66 dont have the matts for CC yet so my best fighters are

Archers
Bashira lvl50
Soma lvl42
Daniela lvl10

Soldier
Katie lvl50
Phyllis lvl49
Crave lvl22

Heavy Infantry
Leeane lvl37

Healer
Iris lvl38
Alissa lvl15

Witch and Mage
Belinda lvl30
Valerie lvl15

Bandit
Lolone lvl43

Lancer
Elaine lvl20


And i just spend all my SCs (freeplayer so only 50) and got box expantion (needed the room)
and this units

Feng Shui Master Mia currently at lvl 15
Hunter Stray lvl 20
Half-Elf Yuyu lvl 20
Priest Chrostopher lvl 30
Rogue Harissa lvl 30

Im thinking on adding all of them or at least Mia, Stray, Harissa and yuyu to my main team, and i guess i should try to lvl up Mia, yuyu and Stray since they are plat and gold units so my question is,
Should I buy a spirit of gold with the demon cristals? (only got like 20 or so) so I can CC Katie (and soon Iris) or
should I keep lvling my current team?, or start lvling Mia and Stray instead?

BTW current Team is

Katie
Phyllis
Crave
Iris
Alissa
Dorca (lvl9)
Bashira
Soma
Daniela
Elaine
Leeane
Belinda
Valerie
Lolone
Cypria (lvl20)

My advice to new players is to focus on growing, you can try to get a base event unit if you feel lucky but the main target is to CC an archer/Vampire hunter, unless you have a really good plat/black.
Reason why is at the lower levels, enemies generally have no armor and the increase range really helps clear the starting maps. (a pre-cc witch can handle armors till you are ready)

My recommended CC units: Bashira (you should have enough silver archers if not then your strongest silver archer then bash) -> Katie/Belinda -> mia/iris/valerie.
Your goal is to clear daily missions on hard and all of them need at least 1 CC archer(except monday which you can run with 2 CC witches+mage)

Do NOT buy spirits, its never worth the demon crystals.
Save your crystals for spica.

I would leave the event maps for the weekends and focus on daily maps during the weekdays. If you can get 1 copy of DK it is more than enough, the cost of her is so high, that CR doesn't really matter.

You want your Leeanne 50CC50 as soon as possible. She's the ones taking the hits for your team. Then level up your Healers as well. Bigger heals can make quite a difference.

After your tank/healer is taken care of, your next most important is dps. If you're losing battles because monsters keep on getting past you then it means your dps isn't dpsing hard enough and you need to level them next.

No Calliope? You want at least two witches for Phalanx 2 to grind for affection + gold/platinum fairies if you need them.

Phalanx 2 has been pretty good in terms of affection item drops.

Both Katie and Phyllis is pretty good. Crave might be dropped cuz he's an attacker and not a UP Generator.

Cypria is strong. Her assassinate probably can save you sometimes.

Originally Posted by Ericridge

You want your Leeanne 50CC50 as soon as possible. She's the ones taking the hits for your team. Then level up your Healers as well. Bigger heals can make quite a difference.

After your tank/healer is taken care of, your next most important is dps. If you're losing battles because monsters keep on getting past you then it means your dps isn't dpsing hard enough and you need to level them next.

No Calliope? You want at least two witches for Phalanx 2 to grind for affection + gold/platinum fairies if you need them.

Phalanx 2 has been pretty good in terms of affection item drops.

Both Katie and Phyllis is pretty good. Crave might be dropped cuz he's an attacker and not a UP Generator.

Cypria is strong. Her assassinate probably can save you sometimes.

Please...just no.
A lv50 leeanne is enough to carry you to the desert maps (fiery oasis) where the good xp/unit xp is.

He doesnt need calliope (not worth min-costing yet) when he has BOTH belinda and yuyu.
I keep mixing Cyrus with Cypria (hence the edit) - he'll need a mage/mage armor rather than a rogue.

He will eventually need leeanne CC-ed but not till he has enough dps to clear the adds (no point blocking so much till you can clear them fast enough)
@kira, I would recommend you giving affection to your plat and above units first. Like bash/belinda/mia. (At this point, i'm treating mia as your 2nd core healer)

first of all - never buy spirits with demon cristals (or the gold mages for that matter) . Second of all , spending scs on expanding the inventory was smarter then what most of us did in the early levels.....even tho getting some premiums early can help a lot (assuming u get lucky)



Now , as for why u can't really pass it , it's simply because your team is weak. You do need to cc stuff. CC-ed units are a whole lot stronger then non-cced units. Actually , i'd suggest u skip this event (or try to get a couple copies on the first maps - but generally it's not worth because of the low drop rate) and try to raise your team. Lucille , while a very good unit , it's also pretty niche right now. Not that high of a priority for you. Hell...u might even try to farm the 3rd map for the silver angel/magic fencer if u feel like , but they are not a priority either , and they still have low drop rate as well. Right now , the best thing u can do is level up your units.



As for CC_ing , i'm going to name what i would do in order of importance(priority) :



1. Very high priority :


Bashira , katie , iris , leanne - aka the typical HAT setup (healer/archer/tank). Right now bashira is your strongest unit. CC_ing , maxing aff and raising her level will give you a very strong archer. Archers are also one of the most general use units in the game , so its good to raise them asap.
Katie has a good skill for ramping up points , and is rather tanky as well for a soldier, so she can act like a pseudotank for a while as well.




2. Medium priority:


Belinda , valerie (or the female silver mage since she is better , if u have her) , alissa (preferably mia if u have the resources) , Lolone , soma


Belinda is a very good witch for an event unit for the simple fact that she's good even without being CR (cost reduced) - since she starts at the same cost as a premium unit.

Valerie - will be your basic aoe damage dealer


Lolonee - i'm guessing she is not cr-ed , or at a low cr (max 1/2) - not that great of a choice , but your other duelist seems to be elaine , which is pretty bad , so go with her. U will also need a duelist in your team.


Soma and alissa are ther efor the simple fact that u lack better untis of this class. U will generally need at least 2 archers (i'd honestly suggest daniela since shes better then soma , but soma starts with affection (and she's already lvl 42) , so u dont have to waste extra aff items on her) to farm DC (demon cristals) , and generally having 2 healers will be required from now on. If u have the resources to cc , aff and raise Mia , she is better , but otherwise , her heal is too small (even tho feng shui masters are really good at aoe healing/poison maps)





3. Low priority


yuyu , second mage , second duelist , second heavy , specialists




Yuyu is actually a very good witch - with platinum levels of dps (she's an elf - low hp , increased attack and attack speed) , and u will generally need at least 2 witches.


A second mage is always good to have. Best would be to get lucky and get a premium since they are quite a bit stronger. If not , try to make your second mage a Pallis instead of valerie , since her skill is better then his.

As for second duelist - i'd suggest getting a valk , since they are good to have vs early rushes , and can also help ramp up your points on some maps.


Specialists - Generally event , and niche units with specific roles. Not the highest priority to cc or raise , but some can be really good when their niche happens to apear during an event.

i'd actually suggest getting at least 1 magic fencer actually since they can act as both ranged on meele slot , and as a pseudo princess during skill - aka magic damage that ignores armor.







As for your future plans , i'd suggest getting spica asap from trading post. She is arguably the second best archer in the game , after nanaly , and between her and bashira , u will have a solid ranged lineup.

Don't bother with saki for now. Ninjas are specialists , and saki is not worth getting asap. Hell , i'd argue that u can even awaken 3-4 units before actually getting saki , but that's debatable , and far into the future for u.







Well , this are my 2 cents. Hope it helps somehow , and sorry for the wall of text

@Lolix: You were the one who advised me to reroll accounts until i get something good, when i first started to game. Recently i noticed you didnt do the same to newcomers not that i dislike the idea tho, just wanted to point out this.

@OP: Rerolling accounts is frustrating, make sure you have enough free time to do it, took me 2 days to get a black. But it was well worth it (farne, marnie and mikoto says hi ) you got mia from shrine as a plat as i see and you also have belinda/lolonee which are decent units and good reason to keep your account but urge of getting blacks will be strong later on, dont say nobody warn you another good thing is you didnt cced at 30, never do it below max level and like buttlover said try to unlock "Fiery Oasis" map as fast as you can, look for guides on youtube, faster that way but if you want to make your own strategy then go ahead.

I understand sammy's frustration btw, mikoto is a multiple witch-mage-semi necromancer-panic button combined in one person dont know if there is any unit even at dmm that has more utility than her.

Just wanted to add something that might help you, OP:
Recommended Farming maps:
Unit XP: Return to Ruins, Immortal Beast, Fiery Oasis
Gold: Deep Forest Road
Prince XP: Dragon Hunting, Immortal Beast, last Eastern Kingdom whose name escapes me atm.
Jack of All Trades: Remnant Vanquish 3, Base Scramble II

Listed earliest to latest, the later ones are better but obviously harder to access. If there's a good gold map besides DFR, someone else can talk about it. Personally, I found as long as you sell iron fodder and don't try to level Post CC40 plat/black units with bronze fodder gold generally isn't an issue until you start Awakening units, so I'd stick with either the unit XP maps or the Jack of all Trades.

Thanks for all the good advice

Im still working on my team but so far CCKatie and shes lvl35 (shes my actual tank right now) and in a couple of days when I get another gold spirit I should CC Iris, the other will have to wait till I can farm the fairy and make sure I got the units to CC (specially Bashira till I get the plat fairy)

I wanted to farm units in this event only to have enough to CC my units but as weak as I am right now it will have to wait, still so far im doing good, I can actually kill faster with katie (and Bashira) and she help a ton with her UP skill.

Sadly I dont have uny CR unit yet so the cost is a little high but still doable

Im working (babysteps) on story missions to unlock more fodder units, I seen the videos posted here and on youtube but since I dont have some units (or dont have them CC and CR) I use them as reference and work out with what I have/can do and so far got 3 stars on every mission till Armor of The Dead (and all event missions till stage 3)


@Ivanledah21 thanks gonna go farming as soon as I reach those stages so far Im only at Armor of the Dead still need to beat Gatehouse Battle to unlock more stages. And Mia is finally lvl 40 (man the extra room I got is really handy now I can actually fed units I want not only sell em or use em because I got no room left) still got a long way to go, still need more money and keep farming units to lvl my team

@kayfabe I have around 98 bouquets, I give some to Leeane till she got 50% but I saw sometimes it gives 0 aff and when I used crystals on Katie they always give aff, but still already maxed the aff (well as much as I could preCC) of all the silvers on my team just need more for my gold and plat)

@ToTeras I have Cloris but I got Belinda first and by the time I got cloris I already had Belinda at lvl20 and since I got Yuyu now Im not sure I will use cloris, is she better than yuyu? I mean I know yuyu has better str but lower hp but Im not sure about cloris

@Remzan I have some time this week so already made 2 accounts and see if I can get a black unit (I play them while the stamina/charisma recharges) to keep that acount as a second main acc (I really like this one so I will keep it ) so if I try re-roll for a black unit, should I save 50SC or just 30-40?

On a side note, I have an older account that I had but never really played much (started playing again when I made my current acc) but I dont quite like it because it doesnt have Bashira, it has Valkyrie Kerry instead and its a little harder to kill and bashira kills faster than kerry, The only relevant unit its gold monk Gina (still need to try her)

But I use that to test stuff, like I CC Phillys at lvl30 or 31 to test stats and realized that my current account Phillys (no CC) has better stats and stuff like that (yeah I now it was a bad move but I did that before I posted in here and I didnt know that It would be that bad :/ )

1. affection can be max 50 untill u cc a unit. after cc , u can get 100 aff.


2. Kerry was given to older players instead of bashira. New players now get bashira which is a much better unit.


3. I suggested Cc-ing iris over Mia because shes much cheaper to cc. Also she can do okay as a general healer , but she can burst heal as well with her skill. Mia is a different type of healer. Iris takes priority over Mia IMO. But she should be cc-ed as well , since feng shui masters are really good to have as well.


4. Acount farming is generally more effective if u do 1-2 summons at the start , see what u get and then abandon it if its not what u need. Getting 30-40 scs on each account sems like a huge waste of time IMO.
Then again , i've never done that since i got lucky and got nanaly on my second account from the first try. That being said , u don't absolutly need a black unit for your account to make it work. As i said , my first acount has no black (other then saki) and it's level 200+. Haven't had an event yet that i couldn't complete 100% yet



@Ramazan - i haven't really advised newbies in general since i got lazy. Actually i said from the start that getting a black can be really good since they are powefull , but playing on an account without a black can also be done. The reason i didn't advised him to re-roll more ...strongly is because he's already decently high leveled , with 2 event units (and a really good 1 at that in belinda ). Also a feng shui master is a really good unitto have for dailies in the future (a bit less now) , so he did got a pretty decent acount already

Indeed, lolonee is alternative lyla and belinda is the best witch for some.
@Kira: i think your options are obvious now, you can play with 2 accounts like rest of us do, some even have more than 2 and its Ok i think. Aigis is a "very" slow paced game really, especially after they introduced 12 stam event maps.
Playing with mia can be fun, dunno if %15 boost works with commission sortie o_O marr is just so OP for a fengshui master, i feel like cheating when playing with her.
*still gets rekt to those bastard ninjas*