Thread: Some advices + Shizuka

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I think its about time. But lemme start with the first question.

1. I just lucked out to Summon Shizuka from Shrine, have some viarity in my units already though (but no samurais). Id like to hear what you guys think about her as i never used samurais until now. Please tell me, senpai!

2. Im gonna put my team below and ask what you think if it would be worth for me to invest into her considering what i have?

3. Since i never did this until now... everything has a first time. I would ask for suggestions what you think i should work on next, what i should work on in my team and maybe what i should look at AWing.

4. What do you think my team is generaly lacking? Any roles? Any holes i need to fill? (pun... not intended?)

Thanks in advance!!!

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I put the old one in a spoiler to seek new advices. I saved up a lot of SC - brought some additional ones and rolled for 250 SC. Cause heck i want sybilla, sue or marr and fignela was fine too. Didnt work, as expected. Well i got my first black - and second. And a few units that throw in new options. For example... the old discussion about me needing another lighning rod and wether Emilia or Kerry is kinda obsolete now. Got Dhalia and Thetis and Grace. But enough blabla. First of all i give a few pictures so everyone knows what they can work with

For everyone whos interested in all pulls - all in all not bad. Got my first 3 plat dupes. Feed Marnie to my main Marnie already as well as Shizuka (from plat ticket) to my main Shizuka.

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My current roaster with some honorable mentions
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and now the new units that i got my eyes on riddling if and who i should use and/or focus in first
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A few of my thoughts... Farne and Grace are sure great. Not sure who i would want to focus first though. Map wide regen when deployed - or +10mr on all melees when in sortie? Both are huge magic bombs (sadly not usefull during this event i guess). Also... since those two are my first premium blacks im realy interested in the question how good these two are among the other blacks?

Fignela has killer atk and atk speed paired with belinda and i can -1cr her (when i got the resources). I also got my first Yuyu though. I havent beaten War of Magic yet and since im going to need black fairys now... who do i need to focus in to beat that map and can i?

Also no feng shui user but -yeay- Camilla. Im not realy in desperate need of more healing besides Iris and fedora but it sure is an important addition finaly having a plat healer.

I have had no valk besides Emilia(Kerry) and my only lightning rod been Sherry or Anya with lots of UP. Now all of a sudden i get Dhalia, Thetis and Liddy. I know that Dhalia fills the mage killer niche but i got no clue who would make most sense focusing first for my roaster.

And last but not least - finaly a melee slot healer. Filling a niche i dont have yet.

Uhhgh. I dont have a lot of DCs. Or Black Fairys after Saki and Anya. I will have to go step by step. Please flood me with your opinions.

Really solid looking team there. You do seem to be short on Lightning Rods though, seems Sherry is your only one. Might want to level another one (Kerry or Themis I guess, Lucille is too expensive for that role, Elva probably is as well)

Next on AW list I'd pick Saki or Zola, maybe Mehlis. Saki's UP cost drops by 2 on AW (part of being a Ninja) and she's a fast attacking range on melee slot, Zola loses 10 range in exchange for faster attacking and is super-helpful on Crystal Keeper's X and G tiers (and earlier but high level archers suffice for H and below), plus she can switch to magic damage against armor using skill. Mehlis attacks faster and is a cheaper alternative to Garania, with range extension instead of blast radius increase.

As for Shizuka, with the unit rebalance a few months ago, Samurai now have the stats to justify the cost, more or less, and Shizuka is the best of the bunch. She's a mid-map sweeper for anti-rushing and has decent bulk to take a hit or two. Worth a look, especially as a cheaper alternative to Elva (bulk is comparable until Elva's Paladin class AW buff at 50% HP kicks in; slower attacks but hits 2 at once; heals self instead of attacking faster in terms of skill)

High attk, 2/3 block and can attack all enemies blocked.

Worth.

Not sure what you can do to change your team composition.
There is little choice other than hoping the bi-weekly event unit is good.
Unless you decide to gatcha, and thats all you can hope.

That said, you could use a magic ranged melee slot, which will be useful in the magic academy part of the story line when it comes out.

Originally Posted by buttlover

High attk, 2/3 block and can attack all enemies blocked.

Worth.

Not sure what you can do to change your team composition.
There is little choice other than hoping the bi-weekly event unit is good.
Unless you decide to gatcha, and thats all you can hope.

That said, you could use a magic ranged melee slot, which will be useful in the magic academy part of the story line when it comes out.

Since i started after horace event, i guess... at least i have Anemone for that job?
Im more or less asking about what i lack so i know what i should hope for to cross my way And also to know if i need to invest in the gold version of that class or just waste my resources.

Originally Posted by IvanLedah21

Really solid looking team there. You do seem to be short on Lightning Rods though, seems Sherry is your only one. Might want to level another one (Kerry or Themis I guess, Lucille is too expensive for that role, Elva probably is as well)

Next on AW list I'd pick Saki or Zola, maybe Mehlis. Saki's UP cost drops by 2 on AW (part of being a Ninja) and she's a fast attacking range on melee slot, Zola loses 10 range in exchange for faster attacking and is super-helpful on Crystal Keeper's X and G tiers (and earlier but high level archers suffice for H and below), plus she can switch to magic damage against armor using skill. Mehlis attacks faster and is a cheaper alternative to Garania, with range extension instead of blast radius increase.

As for Shizuka, with the unit rebalance a few months ago, Samurai now have the stats to justify the cost, more or less, and Shizuka is the best of the bunch. She's a mid-map sweeper for anti-rushing and has decent bulk to take a hit or two. Worth a look, especially as a cheaper alternative to Elva (bulk is comparable until Elva's Paladin class AW buff at 50% HP kicks in; slower attacks but hits 2 at once; heals self instead of attacking faster in terms of skill)

I guess it fits pretty well that shizuka also increases the ATK of Saki (which i just recrently got and since shes my first and only black, have like 30 spirits for her). So if AWing Saki i should propably AW Shizuka first. An interesting thought could also be Kojuro the male gold samurai... idk. He boosts all Samurais defence by 5% so hed also boost shizuka and vice versa with my sherry+shizuka+himself AW he would gain 5%hp, 10%def and 12% more Atk. I just dont know if thats worth the investment. I guess he would still fall behind mehlis or zola. Belinda might be an option too i guess, since i have no yuyu(one of the only golds im lacking) or any other witch then Cloris she propably doesnt stand as high as usual on the list. I was also thinking about investing into Emilia since i have realy no ramp unit atm (besides Elaine) and who knows when next subjugation hits, her hp in terms of another lightning rod are actualy pretty much the same as kerrys and just baaarely lower then themis hers too. Kerry would be boosted by sherry though.

Shizuka should be pretty good because she has fairly good stats to perform as offtank/sweeper (500+ def and sufficient hp post-AW). she should be the only samurai you bother about if you have her.

Anemone is a possible choice for magic fencer since you don't have better alternatives, though she should be low priority since you're probably better off leveling and AWing other units first (looking at saki, belinda, lucile and other maxed but not AW'd units)

Originally Posted by Nero010

Since i started after horace event, i guess... at least i have Anemone for that job?
Im more or less asking about what i lack so i know what i should hope for to cross my way And also to know if i need to invest in the gold version of that class or just waste my resources.



I guess it fits pretty well that shizuka also increases the ATK of Saki (which i just recrently got and since shes my first and only black, have like 30 spirits for her). So if AWing Saki i should propably AW Shizuka first. An interesting thought could also be Kojuro the male gold samurai... idk. He boosts all Samurais defence by 5% so hed also boost shizuka and vice versa with my sherry+shizuka+himself AW he would gain 5%hp, 10%def and 12% more Atk. I just dont know if thats worth the investment. I guess he would still fall behind mehlis or zola. Belinda might be an option too i guess, since i have no yuyu(one of the only golds im lacking) or any other witch then Cloris she propably doesnt stand as high as usual on the list. I was also thinking about investing into Emilia since i have realy no ramp unit atm (besides Elaine) and who knows when next subjugation hits, her hp in terms of another lightning rod are actualy pretty much the same as kerrys and just baaarely lower then themis hers too. Kerry would be boosted by sherry though.

Kojuro is a waste if you have Shizuka (actually, he's generally a waste period), but Saki and Shizuka synergize pretty well. Belinda is a good idea as well, and as previously stated Zola is good too, with Mehlis a reasonable option. Anemone is decent but she's way down on the list, and I wouldn't worry about a magic ranged melee right now since Magic Kingdom seems to be a LONG way away (considering we still haven't gotten the 2nd half of Eastern Kingdom). Emilia is a decent UP ramp though I'd probably go Kerry (cheaper being Gold, gets boost from AW Sherry, and her stats aren't semi-gimped due to having Holy Awakening as skill)

I'd look at an order like this:
Saki > Shizuka > Zola/Belinda (AoE vs. Witch) > Kerry > Mehlis > Anemone (if you don't draw Sabinne or OMG Sybilla or have access to Horace revival by this point)

Man, how much i wish id get sybilla... shes my fav, look and art wise, and pretty much one of the reason i sticked with this game the first few days once i saw her. I yolo´ed two summons just for the very very very low chance i get supreme luck drawing her. Well i got Shizuka instat, that is lucky too. And her art is one of my favs also. Just sad she got no AW art.
Only thing which helds Emelia against Kerry is that my Emilia is min cost, skill 4/5 and my Kerry max cost so cced Emilia is at 10 UP, Kerry at 13 UP. Kerry would be cheaper to rise though. I hate this decision lol

Originally Posted by soranokira

Shizuka should be pretty good because she has fairly good stats to perform as offtank/sweeper (500+ def and sufficient hp post-AW). she should be the only samurai you bother about if you have her.

I actually have (and quite like) chizuru. I honestly think that shes one of the better samurais , since , whiel still a samurai (and therefore sitautional) , she is really good when her niche apears

Originally Posted by lolix

I actually have (and quite like) chizuru. I honestly think that shes one of the better samurais , since , whiel still a samurai (and therefore sitautional) , she is really good when her niche apears

Looking at the Wiki, if it's accurate, Chizuru has absurdly high HP for her cost and rarity (AW80 is 3607, compared to Shizuka's AW90 2539, Sakuya's AW90 3347 and Akane's AW90 3143) and her attack is higher than the platinum Samurai (AW80 783 compared to Shizuka AW90 751, Sakuya's 643/1222 and Akane's 736). On the other hand that HP is probably to make up for her crap defense (AW 80 239 Defense with 3 blocks; Shizuka has 578 at AW90, Sakuya 520 and Akane has 499) and the fact her skill is iffy (Shizuka heals herself, Akane has flat 50% dodge, Sakuya's is Attack Increase 4, while Chizuru gets 80% dodge against ranged, but also draws ranged attacks to herself which might attract extra attacks if you dropped someone after her, plus it doesn't do anything against melee)

Cost-wise, Sakuya and Shizuka are 26->23, Akane is 27->23 and Chizuru is 23 -> 20, so she has an edge there. Just a matter of whether her HP is enough survival with her crap defense + 3 blocks. Her niche is clearing light mobs, and she certainly does it well with her high HP, Attack and lower cost, plus attacking 3 at once, just get her out before the heavy hitters come.

Its very likely though that i will pretty much never use Shizuka AND Chizuru in one map though, right? And i guess if i had to choose between them i pick Shizuka who also buffs herself (putting her above Chizuru in Attack again). If i need lots of HP i have Imelia AND min cost Lolonne. And pretty much every Archer duo or Assassin (which would be the least UP cost version and the most underrated) can deal with early rushes pretty quick cant they?