Thread: Potential Upcoming Events Continued (Updated: 01/08/2017)

Originally Posted by Eab1990

For maps that are tight on UP cost (hi Danger in the Oasis), those extra four seconds can be fatal.

But I have three Nanalys anyway, so...

My problem with this line of thinking is that I value map trivializing power a lot more than I value the niche utility of being a bit more viable in gimmicky low UP maps. I say this mostly because the former is somewhat rare whereas the alternate solutions to tight maps is often as common as reaching back into your unused & unloved units bin and pulling out a couple of silvers or some easily CR'd event unit and giving them a cameo appearance. I mean, yeah, sure, SAWing every Nanaly you own isn't really a priority when you have multiples but for most players you're going to be better off SAWing units like Berna for her AoE assassination and Nanaly for her raw power rather than fretting over maps that you can typically squeak through by deploying a a cc'd Khuri.

Anyway, who to eventually SAW is mostly a no brainer for me since my gacha blacks include Sophie, Clissa, Deine and Despara. 4 seconds isn't nothing, but it might as well be compared to that much extra aoe potential and boss smashing power.

Well, Berna 5/5 vs. SAW isn't as much of a dealbreaker, since anything she doesn't assassinate in one second vs. anything she doesn't assassinate in five probably won't make much difference if she "dies" before getting 2-3 hits in with the former, especially if you throw her against something like a golem.

Using Nanaly 5/5 vs. SAW to cheese something instead of just using CC'd Khuri is admittedly laziness on my part.

Biggest question is whether we get the rebalanced SAWs or not. It's kind of a dealbreaker for Deine. That said, i'll be SAWing Aisha first so she can make the SAW fairy map a lot easier.

And i agree with kay on this one. Getting their upgraded SAWs is way more important than worrying about some 5 sec activation for that one odd map. What you should worry about is whether it helps your character as a whole. Karma and Anya are good examples. In Karma's case, her general use IS to be dropped and activated asap, but at the same time if the UP isn't too tight there should be no problem dropping her 5 sec earlier unless she needs to survive some ranged attack (let's not count golems, who the heck uses Karma vs golems?...). Anya goes from defensive to offensive so that's a trade-off to consider.

Things lika Aisha, Berna and Nanaly should not even be doubted a second, there are other alternatives for those super odd maps.

While i'm at it, i figure Estelle will most likely get brought up. SAW her if you have her. I had this very same doubt on DMM when it was my time to AW Estelle, and i must say i do not regret SAWing her. In fact, so many times on nutaku i have wondered when we would get SAW because my Estelle here feels gimped without it.

i got ester from a premium summon and looking at the stats i am pretty sure her SAW is great. 45 seconds flying to 60 seconds flying with 1.5x attack and only 20% def hit. and her awakened ability of 50% extra flight time for all pegs means she goes from just flying to flying and MURDERING EVERYTHING.
also it's only def not MR so she can tank ranged magic just as well as ever.

just got home .....instantat awaken Aisha. Shes op as fuck

You guys wouldnt care about 5 sec initial timer on blacks, but how about a unit like Farne who absolutly needs her skill? She activates her skill 5 seconds later and it has 5 seconds longer resue time but she gets the trade to ignore MR which... is kinda great.
Grace hers is a little boring tbh. 30% more stats (230% compared to 200%), losing the insta skill use. I dont see that being necessary atm as her stats on skill already rape and tank everything. For now that is.

Originally Posted by Nero010

how about a unit like Farne who absolutly needs her skill? She activates her skill 5 seconds later and it has 5 seconds longer resue time but she gets the trade to ignore MR which... is kinda great.

Actually, looking at the skill awakening for Farne in game, her skill duration and reuse timer are unchanged. The only difference is the true damage and the 5 second initial timer.

Originally Posted by Nero010

Grace hers is a little boring tbh. 30% more stats (230% compared to 200%), losing the insta skill use. I dont see that being necessary atm as her stats on skill already rape and tank everything.

Grace on the other hand is rather worse, assuming the description is correct, as it presently claims to change from "For 35 seconds, attack and defense gets 2.0x, but HP is halved when the effect ends. Initial Time 1 sec. Reuse Time 55 sec." to "For 30 seconds, defense 2.3x HP is half when the effect ends. Initial Time 5 sec. Reuse Time 50 sec." While it may be the case that the lack of an attack increase is a typo, I'll likely hold off on skill awakening her right away. As noted, she is fairly strong already with a 2x boost.

For those who mentioned it earlier, Deine does have the 2.0x defense on her skill awaken at this time.