Thread: Potential Upcoming Events Continued (Updated: 01/08/2017)

Originally Posted by Nero010

I didnt hear about Fakku in a long time since they got payment exclusive and kicked thier free content (even though i know the reason why and respect it it still killed it for me).
Tbh i dont think that nutaku is much in a fault here. Rather it is DMM. The international market is not very... loved... in japan.

Not a very popular opinion on the Aigis wiki. Basically everything is Nutaku's fault, and people are now flocking to the original version owned by the company who killed the International version.

ouch...

Originally Posted by tfmtfm

Not a very popular opinion on the Aigis wiki. Basically everything is Nutaku's fault, and people are now flocking to the original version owned by the company who killed the International version.

ouch...

pretty much, yes.

Originally Posted by Nero010

I didnt hear about Fakku in a long time since they got payment exclusive and kicked thier free content (even though i know the reason why and respect it it still killed it for me).

They're doing an amazing job with the translations lately, and have been dependable with what the customers wanted with the content they're releasing. Doujins will take a while if they can set up a foundation for Comiket or not. Company made doujins aren't a problem though.

Originally Posted by Nero010

Tbh i dont think that nutaku is much in a fault here. Rather it is DMM. The international market is not very... loved... in japan.

That reasoning there is more with Japan's view if the western international market is dependable. That's not really a DMM only thing. Which goes back to the reputation of western publishers for Japan's content. Which again, Nutaku is a publisher. So let's compare to the good, bad and the ugly with our western publishers. 4kids filed bankrupcy due to all the shenanigans they pulled with the classic anime such as Pokemon and Yugioh. Yugioh being the nail on the coffin where they filed the lawsuit that caused 4kids to go bankrupt. Funimation has an iron claw with not participating with any crossovers and only want to release the first few seasons and some of the dvd releases. They don't bother with anything else. For the publisher of Shakugan no Shana Light Novel and Spice and Wolf novel. Both publishers only released the first 3 volumes and didn't bother releasing the rest for 7 years. At the very least Yen Press rescued Spice and Wolf but Shakugan no Shana's rights are still with that one publisher.

As for the good, Yen Press is going for stable releases on most of the popular novels, and slowly rescuing the old light novels. Crunchy Roll is decentish with the manga and anime content. While Google is safe as a western publisher for manga.

Now let's look back to Nutaku and their quality of what they done. Most of their deeds are actually very similar if not an incarnation of 4kids with translation quality, release quality and how they even drop content all together. So it's really a no brainer if the original company doesn't feel safe having Nutaku publishing their games.

Originally Posted by Zenoswitch

Now let's look back to Nutaku and their quality of what they done. Most of their deeds are actually very similar if not an incarnation of 4kids with translation quality, release quality and how they even drop content all together. So it's really a no brainer if the original company doesn't feel safe having Nutaku publishing their games.

What content did Nutaku drop? Are you referring to the closed games like (soon to be closed) MWA, or something else? Nutaku is claiming that they're only the distributor of MWA and it's entirely the developer's decision. I'm not trying to dispute what you're saying, I'm just trying to figure out what's going on as I really didn't expect MWA to get shut down now.

Originally Posted by Zenoswitch

They're doing an amazing job with the translations lately, and have been dependable with what the customers wanted with the content they're releasing. Doujins will take a while if they can set up a foundation for Comiket or not. Company made doujins aren't a problem though.



That reasoning there is more with Japan's view if the western international market is dependable. That's not really a DMM only thing. Which goes back to the reputation of western publishers for Japan's content. Which again, Nutaku is a publisher. So let's compare to the good, bad and the ugly with our western publishers. 4kids filed bankrupcy due to all the shenanigans they pulled with the classic anime such as Pokemon and Yugioh. Yugioh being the nail on the coffin where they filed the lawsuit that caused 4kids to go bankrupt. Funimation has an iron claw with not participating with any crossovers and only want to release the first few seasons and some of the dvd releases. They don't bother with anything else. For the publisher of Shakugan no Shana Light Novel and Spice and Wolf novel. Both publishers only released the first 3 volumes and didn't bother releasing the rest for 7 years. At the very least Yen Press rescued Spice and Wolf but Shakugan no Shana's rights are still with that one publisher.

As for the good, Yen Press is going for stable releases on most of the popular novels, and slowly rescuing the old light novels. Crunchy Roll is decentish with the manga and anime content. While Google is safe as a western publisher for manga.

Now let's look back to Nutaku and their quality of what they done. Most of their deeds are actually very similar if not an incarnation of 4kids with translation quality, release quality and how they even drop content all together. So it's really a no brainer if the original company doesn't feel safe having Nutaku publishing their games.

There is also a big cultural related difference even if this may sound like a blunt old story it isnt. It was one of the reasons why fakku choosed to kill all free content and actualy make money now that they can give back. Ive read lots of storys. Theres reasons why the japans are not trusting the internetional market... but what they dont see is that it did develop. Fakku is a great example. Especialy in some cuntrys as mine (germany) things have quiet changed a lot. Licensing is actualy taken seriouse now other then 10-20 years ago. I know every anime fan who streamed his animes, read his mangas, doujinshis, hentais, ovas, music and whatsoever for free in the internet (mostly because childrin dont have hundreds of bucks to spend) can feel the changes. If they can just manage to dump prices down like in japan where mangas are litelary something you read once and then throw away and figures cost 1-15$ where they would cost 60$ here everyone would be able to afford it even childs and teenagers (who been the biggest audiance). Im just throwing this out without adressing everything thats attached to that. Its a two sider. They have to work to make a market here too. Its not like the consumers (we) are not willing and there.

Originally Posted by UnregAnon

What content did Nutaku drop? Are you referring to the closed games like (soon to be closed) MWA, or something else? Nutaku is claiming that they're only the distributor of MWA and it's entirely the developer's decision. I'm not trying to dispute what you're saying, I'm just trying to figure out what's going on as I really didn't expect MWA to get shut down now.

Oh no worries, your first sentence already told me to clarify what they drop and you wanted more info about it. There's quiet a lot of skipped events, along with another cash shop package for exp. Which includes a fairy that you can lock and keep in your main barracks and she'll give a boost of any exp you get whenever you upgrade any units. There's also a long list of games from DMM that they closed down.

Originally Posted by Nero010

but what they dont see is that it did develop.

I very much agree with this. Another question is who to trust that doesn't drop the ball. Google is a safe bet. I manage to catch up to Pumpkin Scissors manga compared to where the fan translator dropped a long time ago. As for adult games... *shrugs* I know Fakku is reliable, but they haven't expanded their market too much on browser games. They did touch up on Eroge and Visual Novels though. Actually, there is J-List. They are also similar on how DMM is also selling miscellaneous products minus the browser games.

Originally Posted by Nero010

If they can just manage to dump prices down like in japan where mangas are litelary something you read once and then throw away and figures cost 1-15$ where they would cost 60$ here everyone would be able to afford it even childs and teenagers (who been the biggest audiance).

I also agree with the pricing if it was similar to Japan's. Sadly the royalties and license on some companies charge too much. Albeit that my next example is China and not Japan, it fits what we're both are talking about. A notorious example is Qidian and Qidian International with their slave contracts for their translators. Chaotic Sword God was a good book, but Qidian is charging too much on royalties where it's not worth localizing.

As for the two way street. I do agree that they're too passive atm and I would actually say that Japan is currently turtleing. The ongoing anime and manga have been rehashing the mainstream too much and they're neglecting the niche genres. Their mindset is currently at if presented with a new idea, they're ask "Do you have any metrics on if it'll sell well? If not it's too much of a risk sorry, but you could add this since everyone else is doing it."

Then again this isn't the blame of one company but Japan's marketing view point as a whole.

Originally Posted by Zenoswitch

Oh no worries, your first sentence already told me to clarify what they drop and you wanted more info about it. There's quiet a lot of skipped events, along with another cash shop package for exp. Which includes a fairy that you can lock and keep in your main barracks and she'll give a boost of any exp you get whenever you upgrade any units. There's also a long list of games from DMM that they closed down.

To be fair, about ONLY event event Aigis - and so DMM devs in control - skipped forever is Liana. Because lolshrineblack. Elisa was looking to be next event after Anna. Everything else was released already.
EXP Fairy is a recent'ish addition to DMM, around third anniversary, while we were around second anniversary event-wise. So really, not applicable.



There's also Osawari Island that Nutaku (well, some English mobage devs affiliated with them) is running even past closure of DMM side from what I heard.

Originally Posted by ZeroZet

To be fair, about ONLY event event Aigis - and so DMM devs in control - skipped forever is Liana. Because lolshrineblack. Elisa was looking to be next event after Anna. Everything else was released already.

Liana was more of a "localized" issue than dropped content. You did mentioned Elisa which was the "Anna and the Snow Beauty" event but it's techically dropped due to the announcement of the game getting closed. There's also the "Shadow of the Devil King" event. As for the rest, it were the Gold Rush/Save The Witch events that weren't really worth doing as they were replaced with other content. Though to be fair the other content has better availability since Save The Witch became a tutorial event and the rest appeared in the Trading Post.

Originally Posted by ZeroZet

EXP Fairy is a recent'ish addition to DMM, around third anniversary, while we were around second anniversary event-wise. So really, not applicable.

Fair enough.

Originally Posted by ZeroZet

There's also Osawari Island that Nutaku (well, some English mobage devs affiliated with them) is running even past closure of DMM side from what I heard.

Hopefully Aigis gets the same treatment, but the question is does Osawari Island still get events due to that? Most of Aigis's good content until Makai were about the events and new events.

Originally Posted by Zenoswitch

Hopefully Aigis gets the same treatment, but the question is does Osawari Island still get events due to that? Most of Aigis's good content until Makai were about the events and new events.

Osawari is on its second English original event now. Quality on the event writing and brand new girls took a bit of a dip in my opinion, but better than the game shutting down.

Originally Posted by Zenoswitch

Company made doujins

You should know that's an oxymoron.