Thread: Starter Pack Value

Originally Posted by lolix

and that can be easily done by making the heavy's defense scale on the number of units blocked.

You block 1 unit ? no additional boost. You tank multiple units ? You get a boost in defense power. That way some duelists or other end game tank units (that are not heavies) can still be the ones to tank solo bosses , while heavies still being the best overall tanks while facing multiple units. That way you don't have to overbuff heavies to the point where they are a step over everything in terms of tanking , even megabosses , but you don't have them fade into obscurity either by having them incapable of tanking 3 stronger then average units without heavy healer support.


How is this not a good ideea ?

Actually, I'd almost say that if they were to do something like that, it might be better to have it act as a debuff to incoming damage based on number of blocked enemies. The reason being that with how armour works, it can't reduce an enemy attack below 10%. Considering how high tank armour tends to be, many enemies are already dealing the minimum amount of damage. By reducing their attack rather than raising the defense of the tank, it would be able to reduce that damage below the normal minimum. Of course, this does still run into the problem kayfabe noted that it might result in the odd situation where you could tank something if there are also goblins attacking you, but not if it is alone. There is also the issue of if the attack debuff would be percent based or just a number, with potential issues for either.

c'mon people...how many mega bosses are there that spawn alongside goblins ? And most of the times you use a heavy , you will have some dps to clear the enemies.....and goblins are really easy to kill. Hell , even assuming no other dps is placed , the heavy can kill the goblins pretty fast because they are weak.


The only situation where goblins would be alive for a longer period of time , it would be if the first blocked unit would be a boss/megaboss....and honestly those don't tend to spwn before goblin spawn.

well, to add two cents to the main topic, if you are buying crystals anyway then you have 0 reasons NOT to get the starter pack.

Originally Posted by lolix

c'mon people...how many mega bosses are there that spawn alongside goblins ?

There's not that many goblin and megaboss combos but mummies are a reasonably common enemy and their entire shtick is that they come in waves and start out weak but turn into tankbusters if you try to AOE them down from behind a multi-blocker. A setup where you're corralling them with a heavy and carefully thinning the herd out with single target DPS is already common operating procedure and your proposed buff would very good in that scenario. Honestly, I don't really intend that as purely criticism of your idea, however--counter-intuitive solutions to problems are often an interesting feature in games rather than just a bug. Your idea hit me as interesting and I basically just started thinking out loud about odd ways such an ability could be used. The only real issue I have with your idea is the part where it implies you're envisioning a future where heavies can tank multiple heavy hitters and I'm unsure how far in that direction the devs are willing to go. After all, heavies can already do that... up to a point.

I bought my Alicia since I needed to get to 150 SC spending last month

didn't use her

well , as i said , alicia doesn't seem bad at all even without saw. When she will have saw avaible she will be able to triple both her attack and defense (which is already similar to heavies) , so she is plenty good. She does a bit of everything (she regens , buffs cavalry , can tank , can duel with saw) so she's not a bad investment. Ofc , it depends on the other units you have

Shes ok, no downgrade or anything. Once she gets her buff shes straight out better then Bernice in all cases may it be stats, cost, skill, class ability or whatever except you desperatly need 3 or 4 block. Which still many have as a core member.

1 plat for 50 SC :O i was more lucky than i thought i got 4 plats from around 50 SC but zero blacks ;_; and not even one of the plat is somewhat op (bowrider, magic armor, alchemist, witch fignelia) .