Thread: The Summon Beast in the Earth Guide

No, you're missing the point by not understanding how this works on the devs' end.

I'll say it as many times as I need to. Nine months. It took nine months of pressuring the devs to cut the bullshit and stop giving us 2-3 week breaks, instead of the back-to-back schedule that DMM started with and always had.

Now we finally have that schedule. It's barely been two months since then, and now you suddenly want them to cut back on that progress. What message does that send to the devs? "The old way we handled events was better." That is not the message ANYONE wants to send.

or we could say something like " Hey , you know what ? Let's do something in between ". I think the devs are not completly retarded to go eitther one way or the other. How hard is that to get ? Ever heard of compromises ? Only little kids trow fits when things don't go their way. Adults compromise

The compromise is already there. You just won't see it because you don't benefit enough from it. Much like the little kid you are.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

So I guess you're going to completely ignore us when we say that the breaks are staring you in the face already if you wouldn't try to compulsively perfect every event and/or use SC recharges properly. Guess we're done here. Which one of us is the selfish one again?

Besides, I'm not about to take that risk. Communication between Nutaku and Aigis devs is already difficult as it is. Expecting Aigis devs to give you special treatment when they don't even offer that option for their main server's playerbase is foolish.

i'm sorry what ? Do you even have a shred of ideea what you're talking about ? You do realize we ARE getting special treatment already ? Negative one at that. We aren't getting a big chunk of events because of whatever reasons. The compensation for unexpected delays are very poorly rewarded in comparation to DMM. Wer'e also not getting the revival events or the increase drops that the japanesse servers are getting that older players can use as legitimate breaks since they already have most units. even they do get breaks. We don't get those kind of events , and we are already treated worse. Yes i do think we deserve a bit of a preferential treatment. That being said , i'm the one trowing a fit , when i'm literally the only one looking for middle ground ? You guys are the radicals that are not looking to concede anything. Tell me exactly what have you proposed as a solution ? To suck it up ? What if people decide they don't want to suck it up ? what if they start leaving and mutaku decides the game ain't worth it anymore ? This is ofc an extreme example and not that likely to happen , but if it theoretically happens , is it worthlosing a big chunk of the player base , simply because your "selfless" self couldn't be bothered to waste a couple days doing something else then events ?

Originally Posted by lolix

simply because your "selfless" self couldn't be bothered to waste a couple days doing something else then events ?

People can already do that.. while an event is happening. How come I didn't think of that earlier?

I guess you don't understand how to effectively use your time nor do you understand the concept of decisions. You place value on what you want to do. If you really want people to spend time to level up, then tell them to go level up and skip an event. That way they can go into the next event with a stronger team instead of gaining a unit they will have a hard time leveling up while also going into the next event with that still weak team.

Originally Posted by lolix

i'm sorry what ? Do you even have a shred of ideea what you're talking about ? You do realize we ARE getting special treatment already ? Negative one at that. We aren't getting a big chunk of events because of whatever reasons. The compensation for unexpected delays are very poorly rewarded in comparation to DMM. Wer'e also not getting the revival events or the increase drops that the japanesse servers are getting that older players can use as legitimate breaks since they already have most units. even they do get breaks. We don't get those kind of events , and we are already treated worse. Yes i do think we deserve a bit of a preferential treatment. That being said , i'm the one trowing a fit , when i'm literally the only one looking for middle ground ? You guys are the radicals that are not looking to concede anything. Tell me exactly what have you proposed as a solution ? To suck it up ? What if people decide they don't want to suck it up ? what if they start leaving and mutaku decides the game ain't worth it anymore ? This is ofc an extreme example and not that likely to happen , but if it theoretically happens , is it worthlosing a big chunk of the player base , simply because your "selfless" self couldn't be bothered to waste a couple days doing something else then events ?

Jesus, you're dense.

Getting 2-3 week breaks or barely any SC compensation isn't "negative" special treatment. That's called "neglect."

Getting back-to-back events like now was the devs' way of fixing that mistake. Hence, we are now on-track to being treated more fairly. I won't sugarcoat the fact that we'll always be their #2, so we obviously won't get all the perks of the main server. But what you're expecting to get out of them is special treatment like what you *think* is a better event schedule. THAT'S idiotic.

Furthermore, nobody said gold events are out, and revival events ARE confirmed to be in the works, so I don't know where the fuck you pulled that out of.

And you've consistently ignored all of the perfectly legitimate solutions to your OCD, so the only radical one here is you. Fact is, people ALREADY left this game for DMM when events were scarce. But there's less evidence of people leaving from being overwhelmed, and those people certainly aren't going to DMM where back-to-back events are commonplace. Those people either learned to cope with not having a perfect unit, or they stopped playing the game entirely. So your hypothetical scenario is you just pulling shit out of your ass to try to justify screwing the game's pace for everyone else.

Oi, lolix, i would like to ask if you even read my post on the last page.

I will ask you the simple question:

We have two silver rogues, Cecily and Harissa. Are you going to get them both to 50CC50 and use them? I can understand EVENTUALLY max affing them for scenes, but are you going to use them? Feed every extra copy to them to make them "great" units?

If the answer is yes, then i guess i am out of this case.

If the answer is no, then you have to know that MANY event units will be just as useless as that Harissa/Cecily you just skipped raising fully. Will you still work on getting all those "useless" units to max skill and CR by mashing an event?

Because if not, then these events are the perfect ones to only 3star and get a copy of the unit from. The rest of those events you can do dailies at your own leisure and fill up your stock of items again. We will get MANY of those "useless unit" events in the future and we will most likely even be told this or be able to deem this ourselves ahead of time.

So in this case, we will not need breaks because all the units we get and won't use will overwhelm us and we can spend all those events just getting more rubies from phalanx 2.

i actually got both silver thiefs cc-ed, lol ,for the H scenes. Harrisa is even max cr-ed and i use her as a very fast deploy unit...even more then cypria purely becasue of cost tenhou.

edit :eab - I'm pretty sure i said that we don't have those at the moment , nor does it seem like we have any revival event planet soon yet. Not saying that we won't have those in the future tho , so not sure how you got that. Also my hypothetical scenario involved people stoping to play entirely >> which is legit one of the most likely outcome in my case if we keep going at this pace. Not sure why would u believe i said that people would leave for said server.

That's clearly a preference thing and you'd get far more mileage out of a mincost soldier. Both rogues are easily replaceable and the number of situations where they would actually being useful are small.

You would choose to focus your resources on mincosting them anyway. Fine.

But you would want the game to slow down for you so you could focus on more important units, when that's what you should have done to begin with. That's not fine.

and why the hell are you assuming i maxed harrisa on the course of this 3 event back to back period ? Harrisa was cc-ed and lvled way before. I mincosted her becasue i got a crapload of copies which i had very little use and were simply wasting space. I already have cypria cc-ed as well and literally every other rogue cc-ed as well. I still got a couple extra silver rogues in case i will need for cc.