Thread: The Undead Dragon and the Magic Priestess's Revenge event guide

Originally Posted by MalusCorvus

All it requires is the internet and a search engine.

Problem there is that using the internet effectively requires you to have a base line idea of what kind of questions you need to be asking. The Dunning-Kruger effect kicks in hard when it comes to language and communication. We understand ourselves so we assume other people should understand us as well.

Have elenia as well , but never felt a need to raise her till now

Luv the Pumpkin King man - these villains are much interesting than the event gurls LOL

the small asides really flesh out some characters. yuyu wanting to enjoy a pumpkin party is cute.

Originally Posted by kayfabe

Problem there is that using the internet effectively requires you to have a base line idea of what kind of questions you need to be asking. The Dunning-Kruger effect kicks in hard when it comes to language and communication. We understand ourselves so we assume other people should understand us as well.

Would that be the Dunning-Kruger effect? A bit of light reading has me thinking that it's more a case of "It's not that I'm bad at explaining myself or understanding you, it's that you're an idiot and I'm too smart for you".

Well regardless of which definition it is I wouldn't think a translation team (that is dedicated to translating) should have this problem. As MalusCourvus said foreign words tend to pop out with Japanese since there written in katakana. The only way I can think of is that using another method to translate. As an example, I typed in Vampire Lord (Eden's class) in katakana in Google translate and it gave me Vampire Road. Granted they sound similar in Japanese but one can use basic understanding to see which is more appropriate.

Also to further counter lolix, they managed to to get Dracolich's original name, Sevlml, which should be even more difficult to transliterate from katakana, but they put an r rather than an l in the dragon's new title. Unless they're trying to be different it's a poor mistake. Also Elyse for B. Iris doesn't count. That gets a slide because even though there is a discernible difference between イリス (B. Iris) and イーリス (G. Iris) in Japanese, that nuance is lost in English. (Mentioned in case anyone uses it as a counter argument)

Originally Posted by JSmith12

And Dracorich? Dracorich? Is the translation team serious? What is it it rich in dragon bones or something? I mean we have Liches with an "L" why is this with an "R"? Maybe we should change Liches to Riches, heavens knows there be more jokes to be had.

I mean, I get it if it's a word that doesn't really have an English equivalent, since the Japanese r is more a rolled r with an l attached, but when a word already exists with a serviceable transliteration there is no excuse for such a mistake.

...Well, it seems they are serious...

Originally Posted by Eterna's intro

Eterna: Dracorich is a monster, a dragon that's been enriched. It was once the black dragon Sevlvlm, who caused destruction and chaos...

well 1 star on my first try not bad, goofed and mistake Noel as Iris LOL

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Originally Posted by JSmith12

Well regardless of which definition it is I wouldn't think a translation team (that is dedicated to translating) should have this problem. As MalusCourvus said foreign words tend to pop out with Japanese since there written in katakana. The only way I can think of is that using another method to translate. As an example, I typed in Vampire Lord (Eden's class) in katakana in Google translate and it gave me Vampire Road. Granted they sound similar in Japanese but one can use basic understanding to see which is more appropriate.

Also to further counter lolix, they managed to to get Dracolich's original name, Sevlml, which should be even more difficult to transliterate from katakana, but they put an r rather than an l in the dragon's new title. Unless they're trying to be different it's a poor mistake. Also Elyse for B. Iris doesn't count. That gets a slide because even though there is a discernible difference between イリス (B. Iris) and イーリス (G. Iris) in Japanese, that nuance is lost in English. (Mentioned in case anyone uses it as a counter argument)

Quite. The only excuse for the team is that the thought, somehow, they thought Dracolich a word was created by the devs and stylized to look Western and thus they felt it should be this when translated. And to tie in with the Dunning-Kruger effect, it may have been because they thought they were competent enough to do it this way, but were only competent enough to not recognize how wrong they were.

Or maybe they just didn't care, that's always a risk with translators. But again, since they got the Dracolich's actual name right, that seems like an odd answer.

It might also depend on whether the translators were native English speakers, or native Japanese speakers, that might have colored their perceptions somewhat.

Originally Posted by lolix

Have elenia as well , but never felt a need to raise her till now

same, though... i have to admit she is plenty powerfull when one can place her.

Originally Posted by MalusCorvus

Quite. The only excuse for the team is that the thought, somehow, they thought Dracolich a word was created by the devs and stylized to look Western and thus they felt it should be this when translated. And to tie in with the Dunning-Kruger effect, it may have been because they thought they were competent enough to do it this way, but were only competent enough to not recognize how wrong they were.

Or maybe they just didn't care, that's always a risk with translators. But again, since they got the Dracolich's actual name right, that seems like an odd answer.

It might also depend on whether the translators were native English speakers, or native Japanese speakers, that might have colored their perceptions somewhat.

Hmm, it's possible that the Dunning-Kruger effect (thanks for clearing it up) may be at fault here. Having seen the previous translations there are some interesting mistakes, so that may be it. The weird thing is though that those mistakes were minor grammar errors that may simply slipped past the editor. The actual Japanese terms for the most part seem intact though altered, as with mononoke rather than youkai. But they both relatively mean the same thing so it's not too much of a problem. As to their native language playing a role, that may also be true but again, having seen the previous translations I am not entirely sure on it. Wouldn't a person whose bilingual notice these?

The funny thing is that the more we try to explain it the less sense the actual mistake makes. It certainty is an odd one.

@ZeroZet Haha! You sneaky devil you! I can't believe I missed that. Well, I was right, the Dracolich must of had some good luck at the stocks!