Thread: So Aegis is closing down

Originally Posted by lolix

at this point it doesn't matter either way who is to blame.

The thing is the argument from blaming DMM is like suing the bicycle company (DMM) when the car (Nutaku) made a hit and run on you. There's also the fault in the consumer for trusting the car (Nutaku) when the driver isn't paying attention (Their recent marketing and advertisement strategy.)

People should realize how very small the Adult English Localization companies like Nutaku has. Let's take a few hentai localization companies as an example. Media Blasters (The company that licensed the uncensored "Kanajo x Kanajo x Kanajo" and "Fuzzy Lips") was bought out by Fakku. And Fakku only needed the money they earned from one book "Bashful Break" by Homunculus to make a deal with Kitty Media to buy the rights over Media Blasters.

Right now Fakku might be using the profits from another book they're selling, "Metamorphosis" By Shindo L to buy out the company Project H. It says a lot if one can out buy Adult English Localization companies with profits of one book. This also makes one wonder on Nutaku's wealth size and how small it really is if they're resorting to local games instead. Along with sketchy games that pirates stuff from Japan like Fap Titans... Most of the H content there is basically a smaller version of Gelbooru and Pixiv. The timing of Nutaku adding Fap Titans and DMM pulling a flagship like Aegis out of Nutaku's hands is rather close. I'm not surprised if DMM wanted to abandon the pirate ship once they saw that game appear. There's probably some fines that Nutaku had to pay (and not just to DMM) for going against contract conduct due to Fap Titans.

let;s assume that you are 100% right.


How does this change anything ? We;re still not getting the money back , and the game is still going away.


That was the point when i said that it doesn't matter who is to blame atm

Not fully a correct analogy there. A better one would be to say that DMM and Nutaku are both car sellers and Aigis is the car.
So you'd be blaming DMM for buying a faulty car from Nutaku.

DMM is not developing aigis, it's developed by devs who decided to put it on DMM and later try out putting it on Nutaku. The devs make the decision, not Nutaku or DMM.

In that sense, it is both Nutaku's and the dev's fault.

The start of the game was very slow paced with a new event every month or so and they picked up way too late when many who liked the game just jumped to their japanese version instead and had already given the game a rumour of being crap and how "The DMM version is just so much better". This can be blamed mainly on the devs that were too cowardly to go all out in the start to get more people to play and stay on it asap with their "we will add content faster if we get more players" logic.

However, once they picked up the pace it was also kind of Nutaku's fault for not blowing up with advertising to get more people as well as seemingly knowing the game was in a declining state and somehow refusing to tell the situation to the customers, that the devs decided to pull most of their stops and want to see if they can still make it profitable. Honesty is the best way to get long lasting customers that trust you.

All in all both Nutaku and devs are to blame, but DMM should most likely not be blamed for this part. Whether the "not profitable" part was truly the actual reason or whether it was due to nutaku's reputation or the devs simply earning so much more on the DMM version, we won't know. But we can still blame them both! :P

Whether you can still play on DMM and thus giving the devs more popularity is up to each one of us. Personally i am still playing on DMM. I started there 2 years back and have played there ever since. However it is perfectly understandable if you do not want to play it on DMM either out of principle and reasons mentioned above.

Or u could play FGO/FE:H instead tenhou.

Originally Posted by Ericridge

Game is shutting down why are u buying SCs.

I considered it, but ultimately decided not to. I've got 8 left, and I plan to use 7 of those for buffs in a 5-day marathon of attempting to get every last mission done.

Then I'll probably go to DMM, but I'd like my efforts there to be more casual then they were here. And I don't intend to spend anything.

Originally Posted by Ericridge

Or u could play FGO/FE:H instead tenhou.

No thanks. Aigis on DMM will be the only web game i will be playing and the only one forever for now. I am honestly aside from aigis done with web gaming in general, or phones for that matter. Plenty of good games out there, don't need to spend my time on mediocre gameplay and gaming restricted behind the gates of stamina/energy/youNameIt.

Also, FE:H was like the biggest disappointment ever. They had to dumb it down insanely much and remove most of the strategic elements that made Fire Emblem a fun game.

Originally Posted by Tenhou

No thanks. Aigis on DMM will be the only web game i will be playing and the only one forever for now. I am honestly aside from aigis done with web gaming in general, or phones for that matter. Plenty of good games out there, don't need to spend my time on mediocre gameplay and gaming restricted behind the gates of stamina/energy/youNameIt.

Also, FE:H was like the biggest disappointment ever. They had to dumb it down insanely much and remove most of the strategic elements that made Fire Emblem a fun game.

Okay.

FE:H isn't that bad at all though.

At least I don't have to suffer through watching my whole shield walls of experienced mercenaries that's awesome at fighting all missing at 99% chance to hit while enemy units hitting every one of my unit with 40% chance of hitting and then landing that sweet 1% crit chance and exploding my shieldwall through crits and then only for my single shitty villager to dodge every single hit and kill everyone who killed all of my mercenaries. Hallelujah for removal of permanent death.

Yes, that happened to me FE:Echoes SoV. I was like, okay this works.

I'd have restarted. My FE policy is to have everyone survive unless they die storywise. This means that yes, after a painstalking map that took a long time, if one unit dies, i will restart the map. I always pick permadeath if there is an option in the FE games to not have it, like in fates :P

You guys misunderstand how things work between developer and publisher. Aigis devs have no rights over their work. Its funded by DMM and all major decisions happen through DMM. DMM decided to give rights to their overseas partner Nutaku, then decided it wasn't bringing them enough cash and didn't prolong contract for year 2018. While there are some games on DMM which aren't owned by DMM (Granblue and Shadowverse), they are exceptions.

As for Nutaku being small and tight on funds. Is is joke? Nutaku and SuperHippo are subsidiaries of MindGeek, largest porn empire in the world. Nutaku is swimming in cash, at the point that they spent millions of dollars investing into random western porn devs. You can check "hiring" section of MindGeek, they are seeking to fill dozens of vacancies for Nutaku and SuperHippo, they keep growing and in no way are "small".

December and still no info about wether/if we will get any compensation for the closing down.