Thread: Guide to all things Awakening

clear upgrades ? That doesn't look like a clear upgrade ?


Let's take nanaly far example , since her skill is one of the more visible. She gets 5 arrows instead of 4. That means that her skill awakening gives her extra 25% damage over her regular skill.

Now we have sybilla with 70% instead of 50% to damage during skill duration. That's a 40% increase in damage efficiency over her regular skill

Also 280 range is literally an extra archer....that will hit over 1.5k with magic damage. Hell , a normal archer has 260 range if i recall , so she gets more range then that. The only archers that outrange her are spica during skill , soma during skill , nanaly after awakening (by 10 range) and stray i think , since he gains like 60 god damn range after awakening.

Edit : forgot lauren during skill

Originally Posted by lolix

clear upgrades ? That doesn't look like a clear upgrade ?


Let's take nanaly far example , since her skill is one of the more visible. She gets 5 arrows instead of 4. That means that her skill awakening gives her extra 25% damage over her regular skill.

Now we have sybilla with 70% instead of 50% to damage during skill duration. That's a 40% increase in damage efficiency over her regular skill

Also 280 range is literally an extra archer....that will hit over 1.5k with magic damage. Hell , a normal archer has 260 range if i recall , so she gets more range then that. The only archers that outrange her are spica during skill , soma during skill , nanaly after awakening (by 10 range) and stray i think , since he gains like 60 god damn range after awakening.


Edit : forgot lauren during skill

Like i said, was not sure what her range is without Skill AW, but since you brought up archer ranges... damn, that IS insane lol. Longer range than most archers, while hitting for magic damage and 70% Attack up? That IS a clear upgrade lol.

That said, I think there are higher priorities, since her damage is already huge and certain others benefit more (even though it's not reliable, she DOES lose SOMETHING (1HKO potential), while say, Olivie gains attack speed boost while keeping the 100% dodge rate). It does increase her utility since she can be used for high powered, if limited duration, ranged attacks in addition to her traditional roles as duelist and lightning rod.

Originally Posted by lolix

Now we have sybilla with 70% instead of 50% to damage during skill duration. That's a 40% increase in damage efficiency over her regular skill

maths is not 70/50 = 40% increase

maths is 1.7/1.5 = 13.333% increase

but extra range make more tactical option

if you re-read what i said , you would realize i was talking about skill efficiency , not pure damage increase. Going from 50% to 70% is an increase in efficiency of 40%.


We were debating how efficient SAW skill were over normal ones.

Guys.
Tactics with Sybillia has changed now with the latest class and units Rebalance Patch in DMM...
Skill Aw her is the top most priority
(ofc after Aisha)

Why you ask?
fufu..
because..
Sybillia turns into a true monster after skill aw

280 Range.
Range attack from mellee position.
Stunning ...2k attack.

And yes...TRUE DAMAGE during SKILL USE...
She can shamlessly swipe down any monster in her range.

tho this is in dmm version which is ages ahead of us...will wait for this patch to come to us...someday.

i'm sorry , but didn't i said pretty much the same thing ?

Well except true damage. Didn't knew that they gave her true damage. That is indeed very very good.

What do u think about Spicas SAW? Im kinda devided. Sure having 20% more atk (20% less then befor) and turning attack to magic damage which eliminates biggest weakness of archers (high armor targets), but dont u have other units for that anyways? Witches, Mages, Princesses, niche units. She looses out on her trademark of 20% more range on 20% extra damage (which only hurts to lose against low armor targets but thats what u use archers for anyways) and the biggest down her near infite 90 sec skill duration turns to 30 secs. Idk if thats worth it.

it is a bit more situational then sybilla's of course , but I can definetly see the advantage of magic attacks since she will still hit pretty damn hard while having archer attack speed. That means she melts individual targets with low mr , regardless of their armor , way faster then witches or mages , while really losing some damage vs very low armored units.

On the other hand , she loses range and duration. The very long duration combined with a range bonus made her more flexible to deploy because you could put her on a farther spot and rely on the very long skill duration to hit stuff.

In the end i believe the skill awakening is probably better then the regular skill , but keep in mind that SAWs are not always made to simply be an upgrade. Sometimes they are made to be a sidegrade.....to offer the player a new option. That means that at times a SAW can be less valuable then the regular skill of a unit. Take clissa for example : her normal skill heals her for 70%. Her SAW increases attack and defense instead and gives her regen. Both things are good to have , and i do like her SAW a lot more , but instant heal can be really damn good on a duelist as well.

Spica's SAW is soooo not worth it. You lose range and more importantly duration to make her faster non-slowing witch. Just drop an actual witch should you need magic damage, and with additional slow going to offsed the speed)

But beauty of TP units like Spica is you can easily have two of them, one with regular skill, and another with SAW should you want to test it our

even with the slows , spica would massively outdps any witch outside of AW/SAW despara maybe because her aw passive gives her attack sped and her saw gives her even more attacks speed , besides extra damage.


Other then that , spica attacks twice as fast as most witches.