Thread: At this point, I am no longer surprised

So does this place have mods or?

Considering FarK still posts, probably not.

Lolix,

Take it from someone who started the DMM version during the break from hell back in August. In the time I've been playing the DMM version:

a. I've outleveled my highest level account in the Nutaku game (164 to 162 - the account that has Belinda is 140), despite starting the Nutaku account just before Aria's event.

b. I've awakened six units and all but one are at least AW25, with Spica being AW40 and Katie AW46

c. 21 units are CC50 or higher out equivalent, including 5 event units.

d. Another 12 event units are 3/5 or 5/10 skill or higher and are min cost or close to it.

e. I have around 40 event units, including some platinum from Gold Rushes and some that were drops in recent events like Azame and Miranda.

How many breaks have we had in the last 5 to 6 months on DMM?

One. Because even the 1.5x weeks had stuff going on during them like revival events. And I think we've had two 1.5x droprate events in that time.

How have I pulled this off? I've been smart about what events to grind away at and when I needed to spend time leveling units/grabbing affection. I also either didn't participate it barely participated. Some units are situational enough that I spent minimal time on them (Claudia). Some weren't worth the time investment to do more than get them because of where my team is (my Liana isn't cr'd, but su'd because I needed space and have a ton of rainbow fairies). I even made mistakes going after some bad units (Emilia) because they filled a niche I needed at the time and sometimes pushed TOO hard trying to perfect some units that my team wasn't really ready for.

What I'm saying is this:
a. I had to learn what I could and couldn't do with my team in the DMM version and it's carried me a long way in both games

b. I had to learn that my team is more important than perfecting/farming every event unit

c. I've had to learn to be creative and improve my timing of skill usage and unit placement

d. that a break ISN'T necessary to "keep up" if you're intelligent in how you spend your time

I have to laugh at everyone who wants breaks after every event or who want to have them after every 3-4 events for a few reasons. First, as I've illustrated, they aren't needed if you spend your time wisely. Second, start trials, gold rushes, and (for veterans) revival events ARE breaks in a sense because they generally require less time to get what you're after. Third, it actually punishes players who want constant events. I know that's weird, but as someone who has spent 13 years in MMOs, it's easier for people who need a break to take one by choice than it is for people who constantly want to do stuff to find things to do. Lastly,it actually hurts players because they aren't learning how to manage their time and resources and, in the end, that's what the game is about mechanically: managing what you have to get the most out of it.

so , we're ignoring the fact that the 3 events that ended were 1 revival (which is literally a break for players that had the unit) , 1 gold rush (another break for both old and new players) and a subjugation? And after that they got a break with increased drop rates.

DMM gold rushes aren't breaks. They have plat units to farm after you get 3*. They're essentially revival events on a larger scale.

IIRC, revival crystals carry over, so those aren't necessarily ignored either.

Are you just gonna keep jumping around trying to make excuses for yourself, or are you going to actually address any of these points?

Lolix, is it really that bad that players will have to prioritize if they want a unit maxed out or not?

You still haven't told us why it is so important for new players to get a 3* on every event the moment they create their profile. In the end isn't this just because YOU have this OCD of maxing out the potential of every unit you find, even if you will never use them? There will be star events and there will be gold rushes, so why are you in any way shape or form still telling people "we need breaks for the newbies"?

I started during the Echidna event, should i have asked the aigis team to wait so i could bring my team up to par to get all the stars instead of just getting a -1CR Echidna?

A constant flow of new events benefit both new and old players.
1. New players will always have missed prior events, what does it matter if they miss a few more while trying to get their team up?
2. Both old and new players benefit from the SC you get from the first few event missions, giving them both a steady income.

I'm getting rather tired of this balling back and forth in all honesty. In the end, constant events are beneficial and the increased drop rate events are RARE on dmm and even so they happen because the game has 2-3 events running AT THE SAME TIME, not one measly event like we have.

care to repeat what points you're talking about ? Because if you're still going on with star events , it means you're legit not reading what i'm saying.....for like 2-3 days now.

And if you're talking about how the game is not supposed to help players at all , and actually is supposed to force players to make choices , i agree again for the most part , which is the reason i'm not asking for breaks after each event. I think you do realize that the resources you get after 1 week , won't last you enough to max 3-4 units....well unless you spent scs there. Hell , if you can max 1 and maybe drop some aff in another , you should be happy. Giving breaks now and then won't suddently make newbies rival your mighty team , so you can stay calm.

As for dmm breaks , regardless of the reasons of said breaks , the fact is , they do have breaks from time to time. Which is the only thing i'm asking for us as well....preferably with increased drop rates as well , seeing that we will now get AW

But do they need to max out their core team asap?...

I admitedly started at a good time when a increased drop event was near, but disregarding that i have already gotten myself a really good team, with a few select units maxed in aff, the rest are handling things on their own even if they are not maxed on aff, i just have to adjust my tactics accordingly. I still haven't max affed my whole core team, but that doesn't matter because i selected some great ones to start with and they are managing most of it for me.

This is not about them rivaling anyone's team, it's about the fact that you don't need a full team of max affed units to do well on an event. I have 7 units max affed on DMM with 2-3 others at 20-50% and yet i got a PERFECT unit on the last star event. Heck, look at soranokira, his team lacks the 2 blacks i have and he also got a perfect unit on the last event.

Edit: Also during our last star event on nutaku i max affed two whole units.

Considering you've consistently ignored how I said "stop trying to compulsively max every unit you get ASAP and you won't feel so overwhelmed," you're in no position to ask who is paying attention to what the other is saying.

Originally Posted by Eab1990

Considering you've consistently ignored how I said "stop trying to compulsively max every unit you get ASAP and you won't feel so overwhelmed," you're in no position to ask who is paying attention to what the other is saying.

I am not. My past ....dunno 4-5 event units (that are not named horace or solano) aren't even cc-ed for god's sake. And at 0 aff. Will probably need to raise ada because AW is near , and she becomes a beastly duelist (pun intended) , but stuff like azami and the puppet girl aren't. (well , technically 1 account has the puppeteer cc-ed since i wanted to see her scene ) , but stuff like lyn and len ? Still rotting un-cced. Had other priorities , trying to prepare my core for AW , and for most part , it's ready.