Thread: Need some advice

Originally Posted by YoxalLoyal

Is max affection important for this mission? The only ones that are not at max aff are my 50CC40 Alissa, Clissa, and Garania.

Max affection is worth something along the lines of 20 levels for silver units, slightly more for gold and twice as much for plat and above.
Is that worth it, is really up to you.

You need fodder units to tank the first few shots of the lich but since you have mikoto it should cover it. You probably want someone with at least 2k hp and magic resist for the main soak, clissa looks like a good fit

you can have 5 healers but it wouldnt matter if you dont have the slots to put them, especially when you also need mages for dps (and healers often stack their heals which is wasted)
max affection is usually quite critical.
all-in-all, the setup looks good, but remember to compare UP with the videos on youtube. if you go all out on high rarity (especially with regards to early half) you might get UP issues and can't place the necessary units.

also, might be better to get couple more levels on both sybilla and clissa so they can have more max hp to absorb all the heals on them and the damage from the lich.

Originally Posted by soranokira

you can have 5 healers but it wouldnt matter if you dont have the slots to put them, especially when you also need mages for dps (and healers often stack their heals which is wasted)
max affection is usually quite critical.
all-in-all, the setup looks good, but remember to compare UP with the videos on youtube. if you go all out on high rarity (especially with regards to early half) you might get UP issues and can't place the necessary units.

also, might be better to get couple more levels on both sybilla and clissa so they can have more max hp to absorb all the heals on them and the damage from the lich.

I disagree. Did IB on my second acount with 5 healers , while my only dps were solano and odette. With healers i didn't even had to micromanage stuff since nothing died , and solano's dps combined with odette was enough to drop the rush mobs

i wont advice newbies, spenders or not to try lolix's method. Odette and solano are 2 premium mages that only older players will have access to, and nutaku's version is so sad they don't even have a black mage out yet for spenders.

I would suggest 2 CCed silver healers at most, it is not worth forcing yourself to clear IB with more silver healers which will be immediately replaced the moment the trading post changes/healer event/gold rush comes. (big IF. IF NUTAKU DECIDES TO FUCKING DO THEIR JOBS, hire me to do their programming work, flash games are not hard to port over ffs. Although it seems to me more of a political issue for aigis/nutaku...so let the customers suffer)

You don't advise it ? Mate , even my main account had 4 healers + shiho during the lich spawning time : camilla , iris , allisa , dorca + shiho. I also did this map with a leanne , which is really bad vs liches because of her health pool. Hell if u have to use a silver for this 1 , bernard is way better at tanking vs liches since his aff bonus is hp.


Generally there are 2 ways to do this map : outheal or outdamage. 1 is safer then the other. Also when i recomanded the dude said strategy , i kept in mind that he has garania , which does way more dps with her skill (considering the high amount of rushing units) then odette. Sure , he wob't have solano levels of dps , but garania vs lots of enemies is very very good.

whoa lolix calm down, don't take it personally when others disagree with you.
Your method works, it just doesn't work well for players who join after solano's event.

I mentioned your method because most people won't have the ability to run only 2 mages and get away with it. Looking at YoxalLoyal's units, he would have to remove already CC-ed mage, fully+cc garania AND get another healer CC-ed to fit into your specific gameplay.

IMO there are MANY ways to do aigis maps, not just confining it to outheal/outdamage. Because the units once played enough, are so different and diverse, thanks to the skills/wide type of units. (not rock-scissor-paper limited)
And that is why i enjoy playing aigis, because it has the most diverse pool of units for a tower defence game out there. At least until i joined dmm aigis. (at this point there is no hope for the english version to ever catch up to dmm's)



Back to YoxalLoyal, i would suggest you lvl up garania and max aff her, because I am pretty certain that your male units dont have max affection.*hint*valerie*hint* (But you should be saving the male aff items for someone with real value to you, like jerome or any gold above units, because AW SHOULD be coming soon) Even with garania though, your valerie+pallis are probably going to have to be deployed to match a solano. You'll need all 3 of your mages, unless you roll a sasha. Then you might have enough dps to clear that retarded last wave with only 2. (i hope)

But your main problem is still your healing, your current 30CC alissa+chris is barely equal to 1 maxed out silver healer with full aff. I think the minimum for healing on IB is 1.2k healing with an AMAZING tank.

And that is when your units shine. Bernice easily reaches 2k, sybilla has the most hp for a princess with 20 MR, clissa has 20 MR, decent hp AND CAN SELF HEAL? (I'LL CUT OFF AN ARM FOR THOSE UNITS, not my arm, tenhou's and sacrifice it to the aigis gods.) Get those units to at least 1.5k hp and you should be ok, to try it IB.



Don't force yourself to get another silver healer, silver units lose their value once AW comes unless you can fully min cost them, start planning for which unit you want to AW. (if you have ferdora or gold and above healer though, level them up)
I'll still fodder that 30CC alissa so i wont accidently put her in my team, and make me question myself when it fails to emulate a video guide.

So switch out 30CC Alissa or Christopher for Fedora. Got it. I also have a Robert so I might as well switch both of those silver units for the two gold healers. And yeah, my Valerie only has 26% trust. As for tanks, I still have a Bernard sitting in my box.

Good news is I finally 3* Another Encounter after improving my units. Btw, farming for Lauren and Alissa became more difficult after I got 1 Alissa and 3 Laurens. It's a shame I had to sacrifice Dorca to Chris to CC him, but I had to since Alissa wouldn't frikken drop in the second mission.