Thread: Some questions

screw soldiers! http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%B9%D4%BE%...C8%A5%C8%A5%CE is all you need. Gives UP+chance to get gold.

Thats a range dps + soldier + betty in one!

Reroll for a black unit if you ask me. Sure, you can do just fine without one. But you should consider that as an f2p, this might be the only way of ever getting a premium black, or at the very least it can take a long time until you get one.

Besides, it's not like you lose a lot of progress if you ditch your current acc. It's a matter of a couple days to maybe a week, depending on how efficient you are.

The current banner is so-so for rerolling (Sybilla is decent enough, Liana is meh), but not a big deal.

Originally Posted by soranokira

I find it unnecessary because my 1st 5 summons were 5 silvers. it was only like 3~4 weeks into the game before I rolled another 5 and got decent ones (lilia, hina, themis and iris)
you can live w/o rerolling. getting anything else is lucky enough.

The thing is that you could've just as well gotten another 5 silvers there. You can roll 20 times and get a bunch of silvers and a couple golds and it's not even that unlikely.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The thing is that you could've just as well gotten another 5 silvers there. You can roll 20 times and get a bunch of silvers and a couple golds and it's not even that unlikely.

true. but my point is simply that one can live w/o shrine units for the most part. I just got lucky and got Lilia to make up for one of the weak points in my lineup, but before that I played just fine w/o her.
Hell, I started DMM aigis, 1st 5 summons were 3 golds 2 silvers, and I used them just fine. 2 of said golds were pretty useless (for a newbie) btw: Momo (gold monk like Gina) and Leda (useful middle-late game for farming resources, but you can't use her early game)
in other words, the only useful summons I got out of my 1st 5 were yuyu (gold witch), silver VH free and silver bowrider Renarl. (or was it Runarl? well w/e.)

Getting Adele which is a good unit to have eventually is good enough, IMO. but w/e. it's your call.

Yes, you don't need blacks like I said, or even premium units for that matter. You can do just fine with 0 rolls by just raising your core units properly (starting with Iris and Bashira helps a lot), then slowly add event, gold rush and trading post units to your team. But if you want an easier progress or just want to have a black, might as well reroll for one when you just started out.

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Yes, you don't need blacks like I said, or even premium units for that matter. You can do just fine with 0 rolls by just raising your core units properly (starting with Iris and Bashira helps a lot), then slowly add event, gold rush and trading post units to your team. But if you want an easier progress or just want to have a black, might as well reroll for one when you just started out.

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Like you said, it's his call to make. For me as an f2p, when I play a gacha game, at some point I'm starting to think "oh man, I sure wish I had a <insert highest rarity> unit". So might as well get one from the start.

Originally Posted by soranokira

true. but my point is simply that one can live w/o shrine units for the most part. I just got lucky and got Lilia to make up for one of the weak points in my lineup, but before that I played just fine w/o her.
Hell, I started DMM aigis, 1st 5 summons were 3 golds 2 silvers, and I used them just fine. 2 of said golds were pretty useless (for a newbie) btw: Momo (gold monk like Gina) and Leda (useful middle-late game for farming resources, but you can't use her early game)
in other words, the only useful summons I got out of my 1st 5 were yuyu (gold witch), silver VH free and silver bowrider Renarl. (or was it Runarl? well w/e.)

Getting Adele which is a good unit to have eventually is good enough, IMO. but w/e. it's your call.

Actually i dont have any black units or spica and i've did pretty well until now, why black units are so important? I mean cant we just do anything in the game without them? (a losers words at shrine :P ) for example there is a legend that a man with full silvers cleared the final battle, i think thats the more important thing than having a black unit clearing the map by only itself, i mean "challange". Is there any event or mission or daily map where a team of full silvers (all leveled up) cant clear it even when played carefully? Just any?

Also there is a user in the youtube called ethernal who made all the maps videos just using silver and very few gold units (not even bashira). After rolling 3 trash gold and 2 trash silver on my other account (same on the oldest) i've decided to stay with this one (which have adele) guess i'll make up the weak points with events and im guessing new event is coming at monday (just a guess cuz most of the other nutaku games events will finish at that time)

Like you said, it's his call to make. For me as an f2p, when I play a gacha game, at some point I'm starting to think "oh man, I sure wish I had a <insert highest rarity> unit". So might as well get one from the start.

I would do that if i didnt started to game at pirate event, got some sc, silver and gold unit at event which my other accounts wont have (at least in short term)

Originally Posted by ramazan

I would do that if i didnt started to game at pirate event, got some sc, silver and gold unit at event which my other accounts wont have (at least in short term)

Marie, while cute, is not particularly useful. A couple more silvers aren't a big deal early, and the sc you used on gacha with mediocre results. But hey, up to you. Good luck and have fun.

Originally Posted by ramazan

Actually i dont have any black units or spica and i've did pretty well until now, why black units are so important? I mean cant we just do anything in the game without them? (a losers words at shrine :P ) for example there is a legend that a man with full silvers cleared the final battle, i think thats the more important thing than having a black unit clearing the map by only itself, i mean "challange". Is there any event or mission or daily map where a team of full silvers (all leveled up) cant clear it even when played carefully? Just any?

Also there is a user in the youtube called ethernal who made all the maps videos just using silver and very few gold units (not even bashira). After rolling 3 trash gold and 2 trash silver on my other account (same on the oldest) i've decided to stay with this one (which have adele) guess i'll make up the weak points with events and im guessing new event is coming at monday (just a guess cuz most of the other nutaku games events will finish at that time)


I would do that if i didnt started to game at pirate event, got some sc, silver and gold unit at event which my other accounts wont have (at least in short term)

No point listening to the empty breeze.

Don't worry too much have not having the latest, rarest, blackiest girls. Because unless you are willing to spend tons of money, you'll never get enough to satisfy your collection. But if its a strong enough team to do all missions, now thats possible. And as long as you stick to the game, you'll eventually get enough gold/plats/blacks to make people who join later jealous.

Your plat roll on adele is possibly one of the better rolls anyone can get. (Archers are covered thx to free bashira and easy spica)
Most people that got poor rolls won't post their bad luck, so what is often reflected is the lucky 1%. That and you rolled yuyu, so it makes it looks like the value of adele isn't that high. But even until now i am still using 1 silver witch as my 2nd, because i got bad luck rolling witches. So gimme your spare yuyu dammit. (that and i am saving my SCs till awakening)

the problem with adele is that i'd rather have yuyu then her. ANd he got adele , and 2 yuyus besides the free cloris. As i said , in the end is up to him what he does , but seeing as his acount is very new , this is the best moment to reroll if he wants an oportunity at better stuff. Free players have very few moments where they get that amount of free sc to roll for premiums , and besides the free ones at the start , to do rolls of 50 scs require months of playing. I mean , i played from odette's event on my second account (and even my older one was pretty much drained of scs when i came back). Besides the ocasional 1-2 rolls when i saw a really really good spotlight units (that was before the stamp card upgrade) - and that didn't happened all that often anyway - i only used scs for events.
Right now , after all that time , i managed to do only 1 batch of rolls (using 50 scs). Let's say , i would have saved the scs that i used on random summons , and at best i would have managed to roll 2 times (for 50 each , or just do 100 scs in 1 roll) , but i doubt it since i didn't used over 50 scs before on rolls alone. If i used for anything it was for either events or inventory space (which is needed anyway )

Now how many months passed since odettes ? 5 months ?


And you know what i rolled ?

On 1 account i rolled jerome and uzume (which both are great , but while good , they are really situational right now because katie is performing just slighty worse in her role - hell there are people that even advise not cc-ing jerome at all before Awakening - and uzume is really niche at the moment , and you would need to max her level to give a really noticeable bonus). Both this plats become really good after awakening , so i do have them maxed both , but they are pretty meh right now , and i could've make do without them easily. The rest was a monica (which has her uses on farming dcs). Besides that i got a berniec , a cyrus and some silver thrash. This was a good roll imo. It also was on the account where i have nanaly , so that acount is doing pretty well.


My first acount got 2 bernices and 1 thetis , and while tethis is a decent roll with a pretty good awakening passive , the bernice were both copies and the rest was just silver thrash. This was a crap roll , even tho it would have been decent for a newbie i guess (tethis is the second best valk in the game , and bernice is a great tank).


And all that was in a period in time where we had just 1 collection event , and the reward for said event was a pretty bad unit , so we didn't had to waste many scs on it. Assuming we will get awakening and asumming we will get a new collection event since we haven't gotten 1 since Len , i don't see myself doing 10 premium rolls as a free player for a long amount of time.


Anyway , this is just my opinion , but if you're happy with the units you got , that's all it matters. In the end , most events can be passed with just the basic units and a lot of patience

Adele is actually quite nice, especially once awakening hits in a month. Her passive gives everyone 10% more max health just by having her in the team. If anything she is an incredible addition once we get hard hitting bosses that love to oneshot things. I'd love to get her but i am not going to spend on a spotlight with so many units that i already have...

That said though, yes some units will help more, but not all blacks are that amazing at helping in the start. Chances are that he will get Sybilla or Liana, and neither will help him tremendously until the later maps. Rather just think long term with Adele in that case.

are we going to argue which 1 is better on long term ? Adele or sybilla ? I'f rather have sybilla in 100% of the cases then 250 more health on my tank