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Originally Posted by lolix

I have 0 ideea why you're arguing without reading what others previously said buttlover.


First of all , it wasn't me that compared adele with fucking sybilla. Tenhou said that even if he rolls a black , its most likely to be either liana or sybilla , and he said that he'd rather go with an adele for the long term. To which i asked if anyone would preffer adele over sybilla on the long term , and the whole argument started there.


Second of all , i fucking said , like.....3-4 comments before yours (when i responded to sora) , that i didn't advised rerolling for blacks. I said a combination of good plats and golds could work well.


Third , my 2 accounts have a combined number of blacks of .... 1. And that 1 was when i came back to the game , and made a new account just to re-learn the game. My primary account lacks even now a black...or a pirncess for that matter. I also have cellia as a duelist , and i can tell you , there are maps (like the one with the tanky lich) where you would need a princess. I think it was on charlotte's event ? Or rika's ? Hell , the other acount , with a god damn themis did better on said map. Princesses are amazing to have at the begining.



Fourth point : My second acount was blind stupid luck (i got nanaly on my first roll) , and before i even started playing on it , i made a post like all the newbies here , asking on how good is nanaly and if its worth abandoning my older acount for it , since i thought i couldn't play on 2 either. Kotono and tenhou advised me to try both and decide what i like , and i kept both in the end. Those are my only 2 accounts. To that , i tried making a 3rd , like 2-3 weeks ago when mikoto was spotlight , and that was just for gigles , to tease samyy , but i don't play on it. Regardless , even if i had made many many acounts , what's your problem with that ? It would mean that i DO HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE then you in making good acounts , which was what he was asking advice for anyway. This is a idiotic point.


Now , as i said , i don't have a problem with people wanting to play without rerolling , but if they post here , then they have some obvious doubts as well. I just explained that strong units at the start can help tremendiously , in the long run , especially considering the fact that as a free players , you wont get to do so many premium rolls often. That is a FACT. Seeing as he got a crapload of 1 class units , and that the game already gives that class for free (sure it's a bit weaker , but its a gold regardless) , AND that his acount is new and he didn't invested that much in it , i said that if he decides to reroll , he should reroll now.
That is also just my opinion , AND I SAID FROM THE START THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO as i advise if he likes his rolls.



Now i would apreciate if you got that stick out of your ass and not take everything personal.


EDIT : also , as i said to others before , you can try both acounts for a while and see what you like best @ramazan

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I dont know what u guys flaming about, maybe past issues but i did like lolix said (lel he didnt forced me to do this, all i asked was some advice and y'all gimme some, doing it or not doing it is all depending on me you know :)) and i dont regret throwing away old one a bit because i know im at the very beginning and most of you played this for 7 months, only a good game played for 7 month. I like this game much and feeling like i'll play this on long term, so a good head start will be very good.

As for account thing, im sticking with the 2nd, i liked lilia and other pega knight very much, well at least better than monk and sailor, lilia is OP! I can fill adeles role easily with cloris, although i didnt liked the witch class much honestly(low dmg and 1 target) i dont mind %10 aw bonus but yuyu was good, anyway. I heard sorano said lilias aw skills. I dont know aw system or how it works with skills but regarding what he said just clicking its skill button makes her nearly immortal in its duration. I find this
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20151019160447
but my japanese is not good :P can someone tell me what exactly her skill gives there please? And numbers.

http://harem-battle.club/millennium-...awakening.html

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Originally Posted by buttlover

That and Princesses are SO costly that you probably CANT deploy them in most maps for new accounts. But they are pretty to have I wont lie, I want Olivie's OP skills. Btw, isn't Sybilla supposed to be the tankiest princess? (from what i heard)

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Aside from rushes Princesses actually do a pretty decent job of brute forcing many story maps. I did the whole first pick rigmarole several times before settling on an account that had Sybilla and while she doesn't have an all-mighty tanking skill like Karma or Olivie the fact of the matter is that she still hits like a truck and she still has very high defense. She often stands aside during tight event maps but when it comes to just leveling your way up to Return to Ruins you can oftentimes just throw her out there to murder things without bothering with healing support.

frankly speaking when I first got lilia I was pretty upset (because I preferred Sherry at that point, since she's offensive princess)
but it was soon after that DMM aigis released princess AW skills, which pretty much rebalanced Lilia. granted, sherry is still pretty OP with her multi hit attack, but it needs charging and she lacks the tankability of Lilia. A sherry golden army would be scary as hell though. After which I noted that Lilia has 15 MR while Sherry only had 10 MR, which made her the best MR tank I have (unlike sherry who only has same MR as kerry so arguably kerry could replace sherry)

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Originally Posted by soranokira

frankly speaking when I first got lilia I was pretty upset (because I preferred Sherry at that point, since she's offensive princess)
but it was soon after that DMM aigis released princess AW skills, which pretty much rebalanced Lilia. granted, sherry is still pretty OP with her multi hit attack, but it needs charging and she lacks the tankability of Lilia. A sherry golden army would be scary as hell though. After which I noted that Lilia has 15 MR while Sherry only had 10 MR, which made her the best MR tank I have (unlike sherry who only has same MR as kerry so arguably kerry could replace sherry)

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her MR doesnt really matter though. Sherry role changed after skill aw from tanking enemies to place her in strategic area and blast all enemies in range.
like this video http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27689665

It certainly matters a bit if it's the best you've got. One of the advantages of having blacks and premium units in general is that the sheer beefiness of their stats sometimes let them moonlight in roles that would otherwise go to a one trick pony.

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Originally Posted by lolix

I have 0 ideea why you're arguing without reading what others previously said buttlover.


First of all , it wasn't me that compared adele with fucking sybilla. Tenhou said that even if he rolls a black , its most likely to be either liana or sybilla , and he said that he'd rather go with an adele for the long term. To which i asked if anyone would preffer adele over sybilla on the long term , and the whole argument started there.


Second of all , i fucking said , like.....3-4 comments before yours (when i responded to sora) , that i didn't advised rerolling for blacks. I said a combination of good plats and golds could work well.


Third , my 2 accounts have a combined number of blacks of .... 1. And that 1 was when i came back to the game , and made a new account just to re-learn the game. My primary account lacks even now a black...or a pirncess for that matter. I also have cellia as a duelist , and i can tell you , there are maps (like the one with the tanky lich) where you would need a princess. I think it was on charlotte's event ? Or rika's ? Hell , the other acount , with a god damn themis did better on said map. Princesses are amazing to have at the begining.



Fourth point : My second acount was blind stupid luck (i got nanaly on my first roll) , and before i even started playing on it , i made a post like all the newbies here , asking on how good is nanaly and if its worth abandoning my older acount for it , since i thought i couldn't play on 2 either. Kotono and tenhou advised me to try both and decide what i like , and i kept both in the end. Those are my only 2 accounts. To that , i tried making a 3rd , like 2-3 weeks ago when mikoto was spotlight , and that was just for gigles , to tease samyy , but i don't play on it. Regardless , even if i had made many many acounts , what's your problem with that ? It would mean that i DO HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE then you in making good acounts , which was what he was asking advice for anyway. This is a idiotic point.


Now , as i said , i don't have a problem with people wanting to play without rerolling , but if they post here , then they have some obvious doubts as well. I just explained that strong units at the start can help tremendiously , in the long run , especially considering the fact that as a free players , you wont get to do so many premium rolls often. That is a FACT. Seeing as he got a crapload of 1 class units , and that the game already gives that class for free (sure it's a bit weaker , but its a gold regardless) , AND that his acount is new and he didn't invested that much in it , i said that if he decides to reroll , he should reroll now.
That is also just my opinion , AND I SAID FROM THE START THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO as i advise if he likes his rolls.



Now i would apreciate if you got that stick out of your ass and not take everything personal.


EDIT : also , as i said to others before , you can try both acounts for a while and see what you like best @ramazan

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AHAHA, you are funny lolix. The question is who you HAVEN'T offended!

The "argument" started ages ago. Just look from the start of the thread and you can see yourself battle it out with LITERALLY everyone. Telling him how bad his account was, although the consensus was that it was a decent roll.

Almost 1/5 of your posts start or end with XXX, I DISAGREE. You are turning yourself into a meme, like fark. "The Unagreeable" or "The BabyRager" http://tinyurl.com/h64pqdq

And for someone that has played from the start, your knowledge isn't all that reliable.
You'll take yuyu over adele? (you had no idea abt adele's AW was, did u)
You'll take camilia over adele as a starter? (slight upgrade of iris over high grad plat )
A jerome starter is bad? (soldiers are great at the start for new players)
You think liana is a good black? (oh you edited it)

Just some points in this thread alone.

It is OKAY to go against the grain. Like how i am with princesses. (they are just another duelist imo, albeit the best kind) But you don't have to shoot everyone that "disagrees" with you. Once harder maps comes, I am sure, I'll want a princess too. (or a unit with para resist)

Who knows what units you have in your multiple accounts, you pretty much speak like they are one. Have a camillia and nanaly, a jerome, uzme, theis, themis, bernices, sybilla, syphilis. http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20140609044245

Pretty much singing how great your account is to new players to get them to reroll...only to get an similar account minus any progress he has made. (He already CC-ed 4 units at that point, assuming he wasn't lying about duration, he had put in effort into it...and stella sucks at least till they put in a patch to fix the pegasus . Not kidding. Still maxed her affection because her art is SO PRETTY though)

Seeing how rama was already looking for someone to validate him for restart, i guess having you around is actually productive (surprise surprise!)

Btw, I like to read so saying that i didn't get the thread actually made me laugh. At least i try to put thing on a lighter note. (with a few exceptions) Not like the guy who has no original thought other than being the angry contrarian.

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Originally Posted by buttlover

and stella sucks at least till they put in a patch to fix the pegasus . Not kidding. Still maxed her affection because her art is SO PRETTY though)

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Yeah i admit she can be only useful in rare situations but i love her pics too :rolleyes: will max her aff and see what happens after core team like you do. (not just for enjoying view :p but she can be use in some time) Adele was pretty and op too but the reason i abandon the old account wasn't only just for getting better plat or blacks but some lethal mistakes i did too. Im saying all the time im a free player because if there is an easy and free way to get something why would i pay? Lolix just showed me this way. Although if a game lets me have more enjoy at the end i wont avoid paying too.

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Originally Posted by buttlover

AHAHA, you are funny lolix. The question is who you HAVEN'T offended!

The "argument" started ages ago. Just look from the start of the thread and you can see yourself battle it out with LITERALLY everyone. Telling him how bad his account was, although the consensus was that it was a decent roll.

Almost 1/5 of your posts start or end with XXX, I DISAGREE. You are turning yourself into a meme, like fark. "The Unagreeable" or "The BabyRager" http://tinyurl.com/h64pqdq

And for someone that has played from the start, your knowledge isn't all that reliable.
You'll take yuyu over adele? (you had no idea abt adele's AW was, did u)
You'll take camilia over adele as a starter? (slight upgrade of iris over high grad plat )
A jerome starter is bad? (soldiers are great at the start for new players)
You think liana is a good black? (oh you edited it)

Just some points in this thread alone.

It is OKAY to go against the grain. Like how i am with princesses. (they are just another duelist imo, albeit the best kind) But you don't have to shoot everyone that "disagrees" with you. Once harder maps comes, I am sure, I'll want a princess too. (or a unit with para resist)

Who knows what units you have in your multiple accounts, you pretty much speak like they are one. Have a camillia and nanaly, a jerome, uzme, theis, themis, bernices, sybilla, syphilis. http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20140609044245

Pretty much singing how great your account is to new players to get them to reroll...only to get an similar account minus any progress he has made. (He already CC-ed 4 units at that point, assuming he wasn't lying about duration, he had put in effort into it...and stella sucks at least till they put in a patch to fix the pegasus . Not kidding. Still maxed her affection because her art is SO PRETTY though)

Seeing how rama was already looking for someone to validate him for restart, i guess having you around is actually productive (surprise surprise!)

Btw, I like to read so saying that i didn't get the thread actually made me laugh. At least i try to put thing on a lighter note. (with a few exceptions) Not like the guy who has no original thought other than being the angry contrarian.

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1. I know exactly what adele does. Do you know what yuyu does ? She has equal base damage with belinda (at max lvl , and max aff , yuyu has like 6 less damage. She also gets range increase which i highly prefer for witches over damage increase , because the witch won't be my main dps anyway , and if she has range , she can start slowing units from farther ahead. Also , she becomes really cheap after AW. And she can also help clear war of maigc for example. Is she better ? Probably not in the long term , but the extra 10% hp is really needed for bosses , or stuff that can 1hit ko stuff. It's not needed for most other maps , and in that regards , you will use yuyu more , because she's a cheaper deploy.


2. I never said liana is good. Hell , camilla/chydys are probably a better because they are cheaper. Also talking of camilla , she was my first roll in a age were iris wasn't given for free. So yes , it was a really good roll at the time. Actually , i'd still think rolling camilla at the start is way better then rolling witches , simply because you usually need at least 2-3 healers , and you will use them more.


3. I actually have jerome. Dunno if you do , but i do. I now use him over katie , but not at the same time. Having 2 soldiers at the start is retarded. you use 23 (assuming you kept him un-cced to maximize his up) UP to gain 7 extra....instead of simply deploying katie and a spica. Sure , you get 5 less up , but you already have your dps down. Using 2 soldiers at the start is really really usefull for some niche maps , were hyou start at 0 up , or it's a rush and you need to fast block multiple entries ( and i can use aria or julian for that anyway. hell even philis can be used as a blocker for rush maps). That's all. In almost every other map , 2 soldiers are useless. Jerome at the start is a bad roll.


4. The only 1 that is raging here is you. Just because i disagree with something , it doesn't mean that i rage. Also , i'm just giving MY imput , so ofc a lot of my advice will probably be on how to make his acount more like mine : because i'm talking from personal experience. You can disagree with me as well. Nobody is stoping you. As far as i know , this forum is to have people give their opinions on the state of the game.


5. Acuatlly camilla and thetis and cellia are the only plat rolls i have on my first acount (besides spica and bashira and the event units). My second acount has nanaly , jerome , uzume (again , without considering bashira and spica and evnets). As for events units , i only have the event units that were released post Odette's mission (including odette) on both acounts , and on my first acount i also have belinda , and a basic aria. I started in time for belinda's event , and stopped playing mid anya's event. This is why i missed a crapload of good event units , and i'm jelly for that , but that's life. Then started playing 2 weeks before odette's event again.




And agian , you just said that you don't like princesses.... I don't like witches. Especially when he gets a free gold 1 , and he then rolls 2 other gold witches and a plat at start. I'm sorry , but you don't really need witches as a newbie. You need tanks (a god damn bernice would have been stelar) , or a mage (even a gold would have worked well. A plat would have been amazing) , or even a princess (they are easy to raise to 40-50 and they are amazing to have , since they have insane stats compared to other duelists l and you can deploy them vs armors easily). There are quite a number of things he could have gotten at start to make his acount stronger. Yes , adele will be in the long run A VERY good witch. He's a newbie with 1 week of playing..... Untill he will get to the point of using adele to the full potential , lilia is going to be WAAAY more usefull for him till there. I would argue that she's going to be more usefull for him even after AW , but whatever.